In Defense Of Josh Homme

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Alternative Nation has reported on the many criticisms of Josh Homme since the Queens of the Stone Age frontman kicked photographer Chelsea Lauren on Saturday night at the Forum in Los Angeles, and while what Homme did was a total asshole move, out of fairness it is also important to look at the situation from Homme’s point of view and what could have led to what happened.

Many fans in attendance at the show believed that Homme may have been drunk due to his bizarre behavior on stage, in addition to kicking the photographer he also cut himself onstage with a prop and made many bizarre statements. While Homme has not confirmed if he was drinking that night, and made no ‘excuses’ for his behavior in his second apology he filmed, he has admitted to being drunk during live performances and interviews this year.

In an August Rolling Stone interview, Homme was drinking tequila at 11AM, and said he was ‘rambling because I’m still really drunk from last night, still.’

According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Homme stated that he was drunk at a Pittsburgh QOTSA show in September.

“Sometimes I feel like a caged animal and I’m trapped,” he said. “The shows are everything for me.”

Many fans noted that Homme appeared to be drunk at a November QOTSA Manchester show on Twitter.

If Homme was indeed drunk in Los Angeles on Saturday, it is still no excuse for his behavior, but it at least can help us understand more why he did what he did, and how he can avoid making mistakes like this in the future. I’ve known people who definitely have a dark side when drinking heavily, so if this is an issue Josh is dealing with (only he, his family, friends, and bandmates know obviously), there are obviously positive steps he can take to help himself.

By accounts from many fans and friends, Homme is a good hearted man who hates seeing his fans get hurt. At a QOTSA show last month at Madison Square Garden in New York, Homme saw a fight in the crowd and stopped it.

“What’s going on? Is this something like a fight?” Homme asked, shaking his head. “We’re not here to fight. If you want to fight, stick your head up your ass and fight for air – and get the fuck out.”

“We’re here to dance, everybody’s going to get laid, and we don’t want security to be all over the place – they’re already really tight here,” he continued. “My point is this: we can show up exactly how we should be, right? So don’t be a dick… we’re not the soundtrack to you fighting, we’re the soundtrack to you fucking. If you don’t like that, get the fuck out.”

We all make mistakes, and if Josh properly makes amends with Chelsea Lauren and can find a way to improve himself and whatever led him to do what he did, may it be alcohol or anger issues, would you be ready to forgive him? Let us know in the comments section.

  • DonnaM

    Thanks for your article. I think you’re right about seeing what happens from here.
    I’ve been a huge fan of QOTSA since 2002. In fact, today I realized half of my workout songs are QOTSA! Did I feel a bit conflicted listening to them today? Yes, to be honest. But my hope is that Josh means what he says and will change future behavior to avoid similar incidents.

    • 40sRunner Girl

      I understand. I like Kevin Gates a lot: I was disturbed when he kicked a female fan in the chest for grabbing at his long shorts. No one should kick anyone from a stage. That’s ridiculous.

  • makingconnections

    I don’t think the fans are the people to grant forgiveness….that’s for his family and his friends to deal with if he actually asks for it, (and of course the woman he attacked). It’s obvious that he needs to get into treatment before he seriously harms himself or someone else.

    I don’t mean to make light of his actions towards the photographer. He was violent towards her and himself. If we lived in a civilized society the police would have taken him from the venue, charged him with assault and assessed his need for care for his addiction or (and) mental illness. Someday we may be able to trust that calling the authorities isn’t a scary thing and that we will know a citizen will be treated with respect and care. I don’t think we’re there yet…so let’s hope those close to him organize an intervention or some such thing.

  • Eddie Yarler

    This is beyond ridiculous. Before anyone says anything, I maybe like less than five songs by Homme ever.

    He needs to (sincerely) redeem himself by getting the girl a new camera and a refund. After that he needs to stop acting like a fucking chode to his fans. This other shit about him being homophobic, or misogynst or whatever other buzzwords being tossed out are just the mere product of the modern digital witch hunt. Gotta keep those virtue points on Twitter.

    Thank God I love musicians like Jerry Cantrell, Todd Whitener and Scott Stapp who have long dropped drama like this, or never engaged in it to begin with.

    • 40sRunner Girl

      I do agree with most of your points. Your musical taste, however… ??? Jerry Cantrell is amazing. One of the best rock musicians ever born. Todd Whitener, no idea who that is. And “musician” Scott Stapp (the perpetrator of the original “Jesus Christ Pose” that Soundgarden famously and joyfully criticized) has had more drama, alcohol, family, ego and drug abuse than anyone. I’m pretty sure that taping a sex tape w fans and losing it, as Scott did, is more harmful and abusive to fans than kicking a camera. Look up the article about Scott Stapp becoming abusive at a small town IHOP bcuz he met a girl and assumed she would have sex w him. He became the laughing stock of the Fresno IHOP. He is and was a mess.

      • Eddie Yarler

        What part of “long dropped drama like this” did you not understand?

        • 40sRunner Girl

          That’s cute. Scott Stapp was posting drug-fueled videos on YouTube regarding being pursued by spies and running up on government buildings several years ago. And I don’t need to “understand” anything from you. You don’t seem to understand much in this world.

          • Eddie Yarler

            Yeah what was that 3 years ago? I too like to hold someone’s past against them forever.

          • 40sRunner Girl

            Fair enough. Cheers.

        • Kay B

          I have gained quite a bit of respect for Scott. He had a long road ahead of him being bipolar. I know from experience. I explained above.

          • Eddie Yarler

            Do you like Creed? What has your stance been on Stapp’s music?

          • Kay B

            When Creed first started and they weren’t big I saw them at a bar in Milwaukee for 5$. I found myself in a mosh pit that I was getting tossed like a rag doll in. And this gross guy with a bolt pierced through his tongue licked me. Scott saw how I couldn’t get out of this storm and grabbed me and told me to sit at the side of the stage for the rest of the show. I thought wow what a guy. That was the only time I saw them. I liked their earlier stuff. I wasn’t a huge fan but I thought some songs were pretty good. I could still listen to it today. I don’t care for Alter Bridge at all. And as far as Stapp’s music I don’t really follow it but I do read up on how he is doing mentally when he updates.

          • Eddie Yarler

            That’s an amazing story! The only similar rockstar encounter I have is Scott Weiland holding my hand when he saw how into the show I was. Hahaha Alter Bridge is ok. Creed was more unique

            I’m a big fan of both Scotts and I’ve seen some parallels between them. Many of which are eerie. In many ways is Stapp the alternate Weiland. The most obvious (and bittersweet) parallel being that Stapp is picking up all of the pieces Weiland dropped. God rest his soul.

          • Kay B

            Geez I would have liked Weiland holding my hand……

      • Kay B

        With all due respect you have to understand Scott was just discovering he was bipolar during that time. People who are bipolar go on rants about things that are very odd and sometimes don’t even remember what they are saying. They also are promiscuous and think nothing can hurt them and they are on top of the world. They also can get some pretty damn weird ideas in their head. And then they crash into a depression. I know because I have it and it’s awful. Scott got help after recognizing he was bipolar and has come a long way.

        • 40sRunner Girl

          I get it. Thank you, Kay B. Happy holidays!

          • Kay B

            Happy Holidays to you as well.

  • Olga Stewart

    It’s about Josh learning how to be a decent human being.

    Until he does that, then we can’t even think about forgiveness.

  • Corndog

    I grew up with a violent angry alcoholic. Being drunk is in no way a mitigation, excuse or explanation for this kind of behaviour. Not even once. Not ever. If anything, it makes it worse. He got drunk KNOWING that he is likely to do stuff like this while drunk, but choose to get drunk regardless. don’t make excuses for him.

    • makingconnections

      Yes, there’s no excuse for bad behaviour, and violent behaviour. A speaker was at my child’s school talking about alcohol and said he’d seen too many of his students destroy themselves and he wanted to help these kids if he could. He suggested that alcohol abuse is too accepted, when it’s actually a drug too and being drunk is actually a drug overdose.

      • Corndog

        I think i would be inclined to agree. It is too accepted and too often used as a shield to protect against any repercussions from bad behaviour.

        I’m not against people having a drink if they wish but i choose not to personally. I have drank in the past, but seeing a loved one use it to destroy themselves and anyone close enough to be pulled down with them has put me off it for life. I haven’t touched the stuff in 4 years and have no plans to drink again any time soon. Honestly i was never much of a drinker before that anyway and couldn’t care if i never had it again.

    • Olga Stewart

      I agree that there is no excuse for what he did.

      And an article like this makes it seem like some people just want to hold his hand through this.

      Get your act together Josh.

    • Olga Stewart

      I am very sorry to know about you growing up with that particular person.

      And I do hope that you are all right?

      • Corndog

        One of those things. You’ll never be quite alright, but you just get on with it. It’s my dad. These last few years in particular he has gotten really out of hand becoming more verbally and physically abusive then ever before, and after nearly 50 years of marriage my mum has finally kicked him out; apparently for good this time. I haven’t seen him in nearly 6 months and last i heard he was living in a homeless shelter.

        I feel really bad about that, especially at this time of year but both myself and the rest of my family did our very best to help him and all we got in return was more abuse. He was warned that it would come to this and he carried on drinking and treating everyone like shite anyway. I’m trying to not think about it. When i do i feel like it is going to swallow me whole. I just can’t deal with it. I feel so sorry for him, but i tried, i really did, and it made no difference. I can’t do anymore, and i can’t have someone that is acting like that around my son so taking him in myself is a definite no no. He’s my dad, but i have to put my son first.

        • linda sarah

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2bbc027974b59b1ee0c8ac62d7520f487e16fd46726584bf93240f1e65ceeaad.png

          Sending so much love to you. I wish the hellish past you endured could be changed, I know it can’t. But you are amazing, protecting your son and being a compassionate, wonderful human being. I hope this season, that is so difficult for many, has some lovely moments for you – this you so much deserve. And I hope the after-effects of past horrors no longer haunt you. With hope and hugs xx

          • Corndog

            Aw, that is so nice of you!!! Thank you very much:)

            I hope you have a merry Xmas and a wonderful new year! That really put a smile on my face. Cheers!

          • Olga Stewart

            linda, did you draw that?

            If so, then it’s great. :).

            And your message for Corndog is wonderful.

        • Kay B

          Your last sentence was very important. I’m sorry for the situation, but you are doing the right thing.

  • 40sRunner Girl

    Well, I don’t have to forgive him, bcuz I wasn’t at the show, and he didn’t kick my camera. On the one hand, that’s a silly question to ask a bunch of uninvolved ppl. On the other hand, my mom and I noticed in the age of social networking that keyboard warriors judge everything as if they have never sinned. This, as well as the love of the media for anything negative, are two huge problems in American society. I didn’t respect her hospital tweet. She is really milking the situation. Why not tweet him directly, or contact the band’s management, since she is a “celebrity photographer”? I don’t think this will do what she expects. Not much payout and a kick to a camera is what I expect. Injuries not that big a deal. Not assault.

    • Gabi Sermoneta

      Posting on social media is the new way of shaming and exposing someone, especially celebrities. She tweeted about the incident to let people= the world know about it. Had she gone to his band manager, the story would probably get silenced or considered a minor incident.
      I am not sure she is trying to milk the situation. The woman got kicked on her head for no apparent reason, while having fun/working at a concert. Luckily she did not get hurt in a bad way, Josh is a rather big fellow.

      • 40sRunner Girl

        Agree 100 %.

  • Gabi Sermoneta

    oh well, if Mr. Nobody had done something similar on the street, he would get charged whatever the reason or excuse . If a homeless person, drunk out of desperation kicks someone in the head on the street, he gets arrested to say the least. So what’s the point of this article? If he has substance abuse issues he should go to rehab and get on stage when he has his acts together.

  • DanSwon

    Nope, not even gonna read this. That fact that you would even consider writing an article with this headline is disturbing.

  • Jesse Vance

    In defense of Josh Homme? If you were a lawyer you’d be a shitty one. Worse defense case I’d ever read in my life.

  • He was drunk in DC. Songs sounded fine, but inbetween songs he was slurring and talked about how “tipsy” he was.

  • Olga Stewart

    It still boggles my mind how you can defend someone who kicks either someone’s camera or someone in the face.

    By defending him, it just about amounts to condoning what he did.

    And that is wrong.

  • JB

    Probably one of the biggest pieces of shit in rock.

  • JNWLWK

    Last week in Luxemburg he was drunk again. I know that Anthony Bourdain died on him (and all of us) but still no excuse. He (jokingly???) put down Troy for being a “Dutch guy”. In Amsterdam last year he was also drunk and that happened to be on November 12, the day before the anniversary of his gun loving/teacher arming/security personnel arming friend of the EODM who could have been shot. But still, the guy has issues.