LAYNE STALEY'S MOTHER IS SUING ALICE IN CHAINS

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Nancy Layne McCallum, mother of the late Alice In Chains frontman Layne Staley, is suing AIC over allegedly trying to cut her out of future royalty payments according to SeattlePI.com. McCallum claims that AIC owe her half of the money due to Staley, which is about 16% of the band’s income. Alice In Chains claim that McCallum attempted to illegally trademark the Alice In Chains name, and that they’ve paid her more than she is due. AIC also claim that Staley’s future heirs will be able to collect royalties from songs that he wrote and co-wrote, but they do not believe McCallum should be part of any band business or decisions.

Layne Staley came up with the Alice In Chains name, and actually performed in a band called ‘Alice N’ Chains’ just prior to joining Jerry Cantrell, Sean Kinney, and Mike Starr. He described how he got the name in a July 1999 interview on Rockline, “That story is basically a bunch of drunken guys who had plans to start a death metal band who dressed in drag. The band never formed so I took the name.” Alice In Chains released their final new recordings with Layne Staley “Get Born Again” and “Died” in 1999, Staley died in 2002. Alice In Chains regrouped in 2005 and eventually picked William DuVall to replace Staley, and released their hit comeback album Black Gives Way to Blue in 2009.

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  • The Incredible Mr. Mark Arm

    babe….

  • Fuzhi

    That sucks. Just a couple of weeks ago Nancy promoted AICs upcomming album.

  • Philip

    Indeed it was Nancy’s scumbag lawyer. If it were a wife or children of Layne making these claims then there could be grounds. But his Mom? This seems awfully thin if it is true. Either way it is sad because I like all the parties involved, don’t wish to see any party being greedy or getting screwed, and they all used to be close… :(

    • http://gravatar.com/patriot67 Rick J McCallum

      Philip you’re right all Lawyers are scum & sad part is they will be the ones who end up with all the profits fro any sales or tours the band undergoes Shame they couldn’t have worked it out before it came to this..

      Yet by the same token Jerry should have honored his and Laynes oral agreement to take care of the others mom or signif.other if the inevitable demise, as happens untimely so as it did in Laynes situation . Jerry needs to man up a deal is a deal

  • S3V3N38

    wheres my royalties guys? jokin///good luck to all parties involved

  • Chris

    As I understand it, they made an agreement with McCallum for royalties to continue for 10 years after Layne’s death, an agreement all parties were happy with at the time.

    Now the ten years is up, goalposts are being moved so the cash doesn’t dry up.

    They shouldn’t pay her a penny more.

  • Jeff

    I can guarantee you that Jerry pushed her too far. He’s a mercenary. Everyone who knows him personally says he’s a money hungry starfucker who will do anything to get to the top.

    Basically, if I get this straight, Layne owned 32% of the band and she got half, 16%. How the fuck would this go to Layne future heirs when he’s dead and can make no future heirs? God Jerry, I hope you drop next scumbag.

  • kingchaz

    Who is Alice in Chains?

  • kingchaz

    Also, where was his mum when he was dying in his apartment?

    • psychoactive_cereal

      fuck you judgemental prick. not everyone’s fucking mother is their when they die. if that was the case, maybe the world would be slightly happier place i dunno. asshole

  • Chris

    Well this puts a damper on my mood.

  • ROBERT PLANT

    *sigh…Babe.

  • andy

    Hmmm…let’s see how Alice in Chains 2.0 responds. If they deny these claims then it’ll definitely be interesting. Not sure who’s guilty or if both sides just want more money.

  • steph

    Oh the GREED. Layne would be appalled, I would believe.

  • lilrockable

    Shittt. The worst aspect about a situation like this one is that no matter how it ends one side is going to come off as a greedy prick once everything’s finished. How terrible that this occurs just two weeks before the album comes out

  • steph

    Nancy Nancy Nancy…work for your money instead of trying to take your dead son’s memory as far as you can. What a shame. Layne hindered the band for years with his addiction, now here come mom to collect something that is NOT hers. It’s shameful.

  • PiE

    some scumbag lawyer must have pushed her action…sad indeed

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Spread-the-word-of-good-newer-grunge-bands/192998060774625 Kristin

    Oh finally I know the origin of the name!

  • Alan

    I agree 100 % with Steph leave the boys alone to get what they missed out on with Layne always putting habbit before the band
    i love Layne but seriously this is shameful of his mum to do so
    long live AIC best band to ever rock a stage .

  • jarofchains

    This situation sucks. It sounds as though any royalties on songs written or co-written by Layne will be given to his family which is how it should be. Other than that she has no basis for the lawsuit – she had no part of the band. She could of helped Layne more than she did – could of taken a hard line stance with the addiction – some people are able to kick the addiction themselves, others need to be pushed in that direction for their own sake. Layne has been gone for 11 years, the band did their comeback the right way, the let the old wounds heal as much as they could and to have Layne’s mom do this write before the new album comes out is a crock of shit and a pure money grab.

    • psychoactive_cereal

      don’t you think his mom did everything possible to get him clean? anybody and everybody knows that ultimately it is the user’s decision to get clean, no one can do it for them.

  • RödeOrm

    Sounds like a Courtney Love-thing to do…

  • Beasty

    I don’t know, I mean it is sad that everything is about the money, but truth to be told, it would have been avoided with a change in name when the band reformed without its central piece. They kept a name created by somebody else, and the concept created with the history behind that name, probably for money making as well, because it is different if you release as AIC or as “Sons of Destiny” or whatever idiotic name. Seen in this perspective, it just makes sense what she’s asking.

  • Kris

    I see both sides to this but considering that Layne was an original member who created the name, image, etc, I do feel like the monetary credit is due. Consider the fact that the present day AIC performs many hits made famous by Layne. I don’t see Nancy as a greedy person and yes I’m sure lawyers the driving-force for this BUT I feel like Nancy just wants to assure that what Layne worked for is accounted for and considered.

    I think the most tragic part of all this is that the relationship between Nancy and the guys could sour because of this and that (to me) is so sad since I believe they were close.

  • hazmatized

    his mom was living in alaska when layne passed and everyone who knows anything about addiction knows that one can’t be saved by others. it’s not the way it works. never have, never will. plus, for how many years prior to layne’s death had she been trying to help him? you do the math, layne started his drug use in high school. so get real and stop blaming nancy! if layne was still here he’d be getting his royalties and i can see nothing wrong with nancy continuously getting layne’s part of the royalties. as long as jerry, sean and mike is getting theirs what’s there to argue about. continue to play, let the royalties come in, release some unreleased AIC material WITH layne!

  • gsush

    It’s a shame that this always seems to be the way…..

  • Jeff Buckley

    OMG… greed… Dave Grohl, then Homme, now this. Why people are so dumb and greedy? Can’t you just live in harmony and piece? FFS…. Fighting over dead man’s money. Oh my god(that does not exist)

  • MJ

    @Jeff: The se says nothing about “future heirs”; it just says “heirs”. It’s Grungereport’s shitty reporting you’re getting confused about. Why not just copy and paste from the original art toicle if you’re just going to give wrong information? You can even tell where the real news ends and the shitty Grungereport journalism begins. Go back to college and get a degree.

  • MJ

    *the source

  • The Incredible Mr. Mark Arm

    this is the most stupid sueing i have seen in a while
    it is obvious that layne’s mother does more money of AIC stays current, rather than unactive…

  • http://gravatar.com Secret Squirrel

    correct me if im wrong, but didnt jerry and sean ask permission to continue with the name Alice In Chains? this really upsets me they both lost someone very dear to them 11 years ago i dont like to see bad blood because Nancy is a great person, she was there for Mike Starr back in 08 when he was in celebrity rehab so i hope there is a valid reason for this. the only reason i wanted the name change and alot of other people was because its a different band without Layne, Jerry was the brains, he was the heart, and one cant operate the same way without the other. I have heard that Jerry and the others never take the time to call Nancy to see how shes doing, not that that is their job but considering they both lost someone important to them it would be a kind act the call whenever there is free time. i just hope Jerry didnt keep the name for the sole reason that its the best way to cash in, but we dont know what the whole story is.

  • Mia

    I don’t understand why his mother would be getting so much money anyway. If it were a wife or children it would make sense, but it doesn’t seem like his mother should have anything to do with it. If they gave her 10 years of royalties that seems pretty good to me. Now AIC have moved on and they should get all of the money from the music they made.

  • http://gravatar.com Secret Squirrel

    @Alan and @steph, i can understand how you feel, but until you deal with severe depression and severe drug addiction keep your mouth shut, ive been sober for 8 years now and staying that way is not as easy as people think, believe me, im sure if Layne could have kicked the habit he would, 13 times in rehab will tell you Layne never wanted his life to be that way, i havent even had a beer in 8 years just to be safe and i still take anti depressants for anxiety and depression, im as happy as i could be now with a loving family, but back then, classic Alice In Chains is what helped me get through, i related to the lyrics Layne wrote, with his incredible and emotional voice making the lyrics powerful and therapeutic . he helped save my life by pouring his emotion along with his amazing voice into those songs. i give all the other guys credit too, but he wrote the real dark songs, the songs i really needed to listen to at that time. So the both of you can keep your outside looking in opinions to yourself, it just comes of as ignorant to alot of people.

  • Mindy Coffey

    Whomever made the comment about Jerry being greedy & all that BS, do ya know him personally? Some people need to quit saying such rude, hurtful & UNTRUE things about people & I doubt anyone in AIC is “Starstruck-money-hungry” anyhow but I don’t think anyone deserves to be talked about like that & 3/4 of the persons that say such personal insults, don’t even know anyone personally or well enough to have such a bold OPINION.

    • psychoactive_cereal

      do you know jerry?

  • Rob

    Ugh, wish I never read this. Buzzkill.

  • cosmicatomic

    What a dumb situation.

  • Scott McLean

    fair is fair and if this is what’s fair, i’m saying Layne really is a main reason Alice In Chains were and still are great!

  • Scott McLean

    by the way, i’m just this Scott, and not other scotts, at least i think so.

  • scott

    Seems like the 10 year royalty agreement should be sufficient. I am unsure of the legalities of transferring publishing rights and royalties but I’m sure the band’s legal dept. Had their ducks in a row. Someone else was concerned that JC brought back AIC to cash in. In my opinion… GOOD. Layne was stuck in his prison cell for all those years and the rest of the band was loyal to their sick band mate. They rarely toured after Dirt. They should have been out tearing it up everywhere. Layne essentially put his band mates lives on hold as well as his own. I see this version of AIC as a chance for the guys to pay tribute to Layne and make up for some lost time. Cantrell cashing in on the name? Fine – it’s a product that he helped create so it’s his right.

  • Mellysa

    Layne would hate this :(

  • kingchaz

    This is ridiculous.

  • Jeff Buckley

    @Mia: i agree with you. It’s the band’s money, his mother didn’t do any contributions to the music… fucking bitch.

  • GenXLady

    Hmmm. It’s hard to have a valid opinion without knowing everything about the situation first hand, but my gut leans towards that Nancy needs to cut the band loose.

    By her own admission, she didn’t even know or understand what Layne’s lyrics were about back when he was alive. By the time she seemed to, Layne was severely entrenched in addiction. The band is very respectful of Layne (LSMS) in their performances. She can do whatever she wants to keep Layne’s name relevant too, but I don’t think that necessarily entitles her to bigger cuts of money than the royalties from Layne’s lyrics.

    I feel for her as a mother with her loss, but why not cut the band loose, let them move forward, and move forward herself? She is not cut out completely. Something just seems sort of unhealthy about it all. Huh.

  • Krusty the Clown

    Me and Nancy Layne McCallum hooked up in 1984.

  • Krusty the Clown

    Me and Nancy Layne McCallum hooked up in 1984

  • Hailey

    The best bands always get sour over who’s getting paid the most. Shame.

  • Is he one?

    I just find it super sad. Nobody hear possesses enough information to judge or even to comment the issues. Sad, sad, sad.

  • Is he one?

    @Jeff Buckley

    Seems like your momma never taught you to be polite.

  • Soundwave

    You can’t say that Layne Staley “hindered” or “held up” Alice in Chains without also citing his massive contributions to the band’s popularity in the first place, you know? It’s like saying all Layne ever did was hold AiC back from bigger and better things, but they *were* huge.

    I mean, I assume Jerry and Sean are set for life from the material the band produced during the relatively short period of 1990-1996. Jerry is awesome, but would he have been able to accomplish the same things by himself, or with a different vocalist/lyricist to play off of? AiC was lightning in a bottle. Every member was the sum of his parts, including Layne. Gotta accept him for who he was, instead of lamenting who he was not.

  • WM

    I can tell you this much…I have personally talked with Nancy via email about 5 years back on several occasions and boy she is simply super super nice. She took time out to write me long emails back and even send me copies of Laynes memorial service pamphlets and everything…so obviously I am seeing a big push her from a typical lawyer …

  • Raj

    Terrible situation, yes all future royalties from Alice in Chains should be going to Layne’s estate and since his Mom is the beneficiary than she should be able to collect that unless they agreed otherwise.

    I don’t know if Cantrell is greedy, if he is money hungry and would do anything to get to the top as some people are suggesting surely he would have done a lot of things to bring in more wealth. He would have his memoir out by now. He could have hired a singer with bigger name and star power to sing the lead vocals. He could be pushing a lot more things to get himself a lot more wealthy. The reality is the only way to make money now is by touring which he’s doing like crazy. He didn’t take a singer with a big ego. He took Duvall who was relatively unknown until he joined Alice.

  • NiceNcleaN

    Lets just say they give her a final amount of money. Of course reasonable based on the name and just the royalties from what Layne was a part of and end it. AiC will not stop so all this legal B$ should be over fast so all can make more money and more music.

  • Dan

    FROM LAYNES MOM:
    “I had no connection to [Layne and Alice In Chains’] music, I had no idea, because I just didn’t get it. So when he came home I wanted a regular relationship with my son, I wasn’t interested in how other people saw him at all and he was very humble. He never talked about it other than to tell me he had an interesting life.”
    “Frankly they never disbanded the band, it’s a business. It took me awhile to figure some of these things out. I felt for the fans’ sake they might want to move on with a different name just so people didn’t criticize them for moving on using Layne’s name. But I also understand that they are the musicians and there is no Alice In Chains without them. They had every right to do what they did. Do I hear from them? No. Do I care about what happens to them? Absolutely.

    FROM JERRY:
    Q:Did you speak with Layne’s family, or ask for their blessing to record new music?

    JERRY: I didn’t ask for their blessing, but I talked to Layne’s mom. Layne’s family is, of course, our family. They’re important to us and we support them just like they support us. I don’t really think it was ever us asking, “May we continue thing?” This is our band; Nancy [Layne’s mom] was never in the band. We love her to death, but… [shrugs]

  • Dennis

    Sorry, gotta side with the boys on this one. If Nancy was fighting on behalf of Layne’s non-existent kids, I could understand.

    I can’t totally disagree with whoever said this stinks of Courtney Love.

  • steph

    Hey Secret Squirrell. I’m an addict now so go fuck yourself, mouthy asshole. I love Layne Staley to death and I certainly don’t need your mouth running telling me I’m wrong on this subject. He held up this band for years, now they are going again and mama wants to hinder them? It is what it is, so stop feeling sorry for yourself, man up, and let people have their opinions. Jerk. You don’t know me and I didn’t direct anything TO YOU…but you did to ME. Get a life and quit sniveling.

  • Dan

    This information should have been posted in this article above:

    According to the letter, the band has attempted to negotiate an equitable end to the business partnership. To that end, they hired an accountant to determine the value of Staley’s share in the band – about $341,000. That amount is significantly less than the $705,000 paid out to Staley’s heirs since his death.

    On McCallum’s behalf, Lewis has asked for a court order establishing her right to 16 percent of the band’s revenue and well as any of her son’s assets currently controlled by the band.

    ….The band is trying to sever ties and Laynes mom is going after the money the band makes now without Layne. HUH?

  • Mett

    That’s right Steph, secret squirrel is indeed a foul, cunt, anus-in-place-of-his-mouth, asshole. Yep, sausage down your throat Squirrel. Fuck off. May you fill the porcelain bowl with your innards, flowin’ south after max rammage… you know how it goes SS. You’re the man. Now bend over.

  • Jeremy

    In the end, it’s none of our business. It’s between AIC and Nancy. Nobody on this board, including myself have a right to tell them what to do.

  • 0822

    All of what I am about to say is my perception. It’s my decision to post this.

    I know for a fact everything negative being said about Jerry Cantrell is true. He is not a man of his word. I heard a very famous musician say, “When you’re dealing with Jerry make sure you have everything in writing.” He might be smiling but there is something very sinister behind it. Someone said that if he didn’t care then he would have a famous singer on stage. Not true. He does care… about himself. His ego couldn’t take Layne’s talent overshadowing his 3 chords back then and it won’t deal with another famous singer now.

    Layne was done with band. He wasn’t on good terms with Jerry. Someone asked where Nancy was when Layne died. Where was Jerry???? Where was his band???? How many years did it take for Jerry to show up at Layne’s annual memorial? Oh wait, when he had an album coming out he could show up. And, those who said that Layne’s addiction hindered the band really aren’t familiar with the band. Jerry’s addiction was just as prominent… by his own self-admission last year at his award for drug rehabilitation. But, because he isn’t as honest as Layne was …. he is a “good guy”? C’mon!

    To take the copyright issue further I think it is hilarious that a book about Layne (and exposing some of the band for who they are and what part they played in his death) was going to come out right before Black Gives Way to Blue… and then it disappeared right as the band got lyrics together. And the lyric video for Stone has a girl with a book lying dead and pages floating away.

    I can cite several examples where Jerry Cantrell has fucked over people, stolen ideas, stolen lyrics, etc. The only difference today is Nancy decided not to put up with his BS anymore. Everyone in the industry knows that Jerry is as cold as a stone when it comes to business. His two solo albums didn’t do anything. Of course he was going to use Alice In Chains to promote himself, because it has been proven there is no interest in him without using Layne’s old songs. He talks so much about moving on yet all he does is use the AIC name to tour and play old material mixed in with some new, possibly stolen material.

    Jerry is a cunning business man in my opinion. He knows how to manipulate the system. He wasn’t the talent that drove Dirt to sell the way it did- just look at the sales for his solo album. He should have changed the name or pay what is owed. This isn’t about what we think, it is about the law and doing what’s right. A foreign concept to that man knowing his past history with business and personal dealings.

    The truth is always revealed. He should consider himself lucky that he is only in court over money and not other things. As far as Layne’s death is concerned there are only two people who truly knew what happened. The person who took the drugs and the person who gave him the drugs.

  • ARC

    What a downer. Hopefully it’ll blow over soon.

  • SuperSG

    I’m not taking anything anyone says about anybody as true until proof is shown that verifies that person’s words

  • ARC

    0822
    Not trying to start anything, maybe i am understanding this wrong, but if you’re implying that Jerry didn’t care about Layne at all, and that he is deceptive and a complete narcissist, then my own perceptions would lead me to completely DISAGREE.
    Anyway, peace out people

  • http://drivermotorsports.com Kris

    Someone summed this up perfectly above: Layne would hate this! What a total shame this is happening.

  • NiceNcleaN

    Jerry did try and help what was he supposed to do have Layne locked up? Layne was his own man and takes full responsibility in his own death. Mom is of course trying to get what the lawyers are saying she can.

    Legal B$

  • 0765

    Would love to hear some facts over conjecture, ‘perception’ and general statements, Mr. 0822. If you’re so ‘in the right’ about all you laid out there, then let’s have it. Do tell us. Until then, you’re just blathering on about nothing. And making flat-out false statements/ LIES to boot…

  • 0765

    Oh incidentally- 0822 is Nancy.

    • psychoactive_cereal

      prove it

  • Jeanne

    I’ve heard bad things about Jerry but if Jerry was ALL about money as some have said here, then why did he NEVER write a book and spill the beans about AIC?? JC could have wrote or told about what really went down with Mike Starr and could have let the cat out of the bag about Layne and the “turmoil” within AIC for YEARS…he never has, if he was about all money then telling it all could net him a good amount.

    Either way this is sad and I hope they can resolve it. If they keep performing old AIC songs that were LAYNE’s then yes PAY HER!

  • http://www.myspace.com/electricchildren RamblinEdddie

    08/22 hit it right on the mark … the sad thing about Jerry is all the little Girls

  • 82264

    The tone of where this is going is absolutely insane. Jerry is not responsible for Layne’s death. None of the Alice members were. Layne was a grown man, an adult. He made his own choices.

    Guess what? You dig deep enough you’re going to find dirt on anyone and everyone. No one is a fucking saint, no one is perfect, and business is business. Oh, Jerry runs the business portion of his career in a ‘cunning’ way? Indeed, better he run it like a retard and blow his career earnings, ruin himself, bury himself under the weight of total ignorance. All of them. What the hell are you trying to prove.

  • 82264

    Oh and Jerry WAS at Layne’s memorial in 2002. I have a photo of him with C.C. there. Get your facts straight.

  • Wall1970

    Christ, this fucking sucks. AIC is two weeks out from their release date and in the middle of a tour. The timing seems a little planned here to me. However there are facts and a story here that we all know nothing about, and probably never will, so I’m thinking everyone needs to chill out and keep the rude comments directed to both sides to yourselves. Unfortunately art is business and money talks. Very disappointed at this news.

  • 0822

    @082264. I believe I was speaking about the ANNUAL memorial Layne’s mom holds. Jerry didn’t go until he had a record to promote. Watch the video. “It’s about time.” I wasn’t referencing 2002 when he admits to going to Layne’s memorial “coked up” but thanks for the reminder (laughs).

    There is a difference between being smart with money and being ugly & greedy with it. Cantrell is ugly & greedy with it. Writing his own story would be like opening Pandora’s Box. What am I saying? He wouldn’t write his own material.

    Everyone in the industry is aware of what a prick he is. He was always jealous of Layne. Always.

  • Wall1970

    Just a quick question here. Are you saying that Jerry is guilty of stealing and or copying other peoples material? If so, those are pretty strong accusations, and if this were true, I’m thinking these things might have come to light many years prior to this? Don’t know, but trying to think rationally here.

  • The darkness

    @0822 the way I see it right now I can concluded you are one of 5 people. You are either a lawyer, Nancy, that author who wrote that layne staley autobiography that layne’s sister bashed, someone who is bitter at the living aic members and for some reason wants revenge, or you’re just some other random person. I don’t fucking know but whatever.

  • Josh

    Who is everyone in the industry?

  • the keeper

    0822 is just another random poster looking for attention.

    Proof of your claims or be quiet please

  • Wall1970

    Good questions Josh. Was wondering the same thing…

  • http://Gravatar.com Secret Squirrel

    @Steph, I didn’t mean it as an insult, most people have your opinion when they never had their own vices, it was just an incorrect assumption, I’m sorry, but I totally agree with @Soundwave, To say Layne hindered the band is ignorant, since he clearly was one of the sole reasons they got big in the first place, look up top 100 hard rock bands, AiC is #34 (should be higher but whatever) and all they talked about was Layne Staleys unbelievable voice. And @Mett, do you have an education? Your attempt to insult me failed miserably in fact I actually laughed when I saw your comment thinking I guess retarded people can use the Internet. And just to be honest here, Layne did write most of the lyrics in AiC, but the only songs he wrote lyrics and music were “Angry Chair”, “Hate To Feel” and “Head Creeps”, there may be more but if they were to never play those songs live again, so be it, I would like to hear their newer material live because that’s what the band is now.

  • vizionblind

    black sure does give way to blue

  • Daniannie

    Jerry was jealous of Layne? Why? Why would anyone be jealous of that poor sick man? Especially somebody who was close enough to see how bad things really were. Ridiculous.

    I always thought that the other band members, Jerry included probably were deeply angry at Layne. Dealing with a strung out junkie ain’t fun. And if you are in a band with one that is strung out to the point of not being able to function…..bands have to tour. They have to record. If you aren’t doing either one because your singer is locked up in an apartment slowly killing himself & refusing all help… All of them were in their 20’s & at least two of them were dealing with their own problems.It’s funny in a sad kind of way to continue to see all the people demanding to know why why why the band members didn’t save Layne. The junkie has to want to be helped. If they don’t, it doesn’t matter what anyone does or says. From all reports, Layne was beyond help. Some addictions are bigger than the addict. It’s a terrible truth but it doesn’t make it Layne’s family’s fault & it doesn’t make it the bands’ fault, individually or collectively. It’s horribly tragic but sometimes it just happens.

    You might want to be careful about making veiled accusations about Jerry stealing songs, 0822. You might be asked to back up what you are saying in a court of law since that’s a fairly serious accusation. BTW-for the record, I don’t buy about 95% of what you’ve said here, mostly because most of what I’ve heard about Jerry Cantrell doesn’t jive with what you are insinuating. Clearly you have a major axe to grind here. I don’t know that I think you are Layne’s mother. More than likely one of those “there is no Chains without Layne” people. They don’t make a lot of sense to me either. I mean, seriously. Who really gives a shit if Jerry or Sean or Mike attends one of the Layne memorials that’s given every year? Not me. It’s more than past time to move on. This obsession with Layne is just unhealthy. Yes, he was great. Yes, he was one of the two most exceptional singers of the era. But it’s time we let him rest in peace & everyone else to move on. Rest in peace, Layne. Rock on, AIC.

    • psychoactive_cereal

      fuck you jerry was an addict too, they were all dope fiend drug addict alcoholics!!! some just dont make it out alive! judgemental fuckface!

  • 82264

    “Everyone in the industry is aware of what a prick he is. He was always jealous of Layne. Always.”

    Yeah but you see, what the fuck would you know? Exactly DICK. Nothing. You are one of those 5 people ‘The darkness’ referenced above. It would be truly sad if this were Nancy, for this stoops pretty low. I doubt it is her though. So that leaves 4 possibilities left. Any of those 4, the hell with you… Jerry wasn’t coked up at the 2002 memorial. That’s something else you extracted from your asshole. Maybe YOU are “ugly & greedy” with your own finances. Maybe you’re just projecting- here on the eve of a new AIC album. Your timing is suspect as hell. It’s clear you just have an ax to grind.

  • lilrockable

    0822 must be ‘Skeeter’ from the twenty three documentary

  • steph

    @Secret Squirrell…I have followed this band since the beginning. I love Layne Staley with all my heart and his contributions to the band. His voice is nothing less than the greatest voice in rock history. I am hardly ignorant, nor misinformed. When I say LS hindered this band, he did just that. I am sorry if you don’t agree, but even Layne himself would agree with that. I am not talking about chart topping, lyric writing, front man running….I am simply saying that his addiction ran him, not the other way around. Therefore because he couldn’t/wouldn’t tour, write, be a member of AIC etc, he hindered the band. AIC was on hold for 14 years. 6 of those years Layne was still alive. Those boys waited and hoped and agonized over Layne and that is the truth. I in no way am FAULTING Layne, addiction is a crazy animal….but in the whole scheme of things, they waited for him for a long time….he passed away and they waited even longer. These guys have every right to tour, write, record and perform the songs that they helped make famous. I believe Layne’s parent’s got every dime when he passed because he died without a will, plus royalties for many years. Now…whether you like it or not, it would seem that greed is the driving force behind this lawsuit. According to the papers she has been overpaid as it is. The courts will get to the bottom of it all, and make the proper decision, as they should. Do yourself a favor an look up the word hinder….never mind I did it for you: HINDER ~Create difficulties for (someone or something), resulting in delay or obstruction.

    • psychoactive_cereal

      omg they were all addicts at some point with one thing or another. mike starr? died an addict. jerry was an addict. sean was an alcoholic. they all hindered each other. just because layne got more coverage, doesn’t further your point that it was his fault only for the bands downfall. they were all fucking addicts

  • LessButNotTheLeast

    I’d say give her ALL the money , feel uncomfortable once more , then Jerry maybe will struck his chords with the same passion as before

  • greatjupiter

    The courts will make the decision for her to move on. The band plays on.

    Why is anyone even caring who came up with the name. Bands do things and make decisions in the primary stages of their existence. They don’t think about life and death or even about business and legalalities when the are getting started. The 10 yrs she was given was a legal way of paying her for LAYNE’s contribytion to the band. If he were alive, he could have negotiated the same deal and given the same deal.

  • Dan

    Layne even came out of rehab and did Mad Season and opted not to work with Jerry-Mike-Sean.

    There was an obvious and real tension between Jerry and Layne.

    It’s obvious Jerry is pissed he couldnt tour behind Dirt and Tripod (2 #1 albums)

    Boo hoo Layne was Dopesick all the time boo hoo. He left AIC hanging.

  • steph

    AIC toured DIRT. Extensively. They didn’t tour JOF and AIC/Tripod.

  • GwynnKatie

    You know, this entire situation just weighs so heavy
    on my heart.
    I don’t understand any of this.
    Why does it have to be money?
    Seriously?
    Doesn’t everyone involved have enough fucking money by now?
    And all I meant to do was come here today
    to wish Mike Inez Happy Birthday…
    Poisonous words and thoughts…
    I feel sick.
    Peace
    AIC/LSMS Forever

  • Bigtatas

    Jerry did give an interview saying he was coked up at laynesemorial u can google it I’m sure. I saw 0822 post on another board and slip some info and I know it is laynes mom or close to the band. The info was is close to the vest and everyone on here can be considered a random poster.

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  • Kathrin

    and again the incredible greed for money, incomprehensible. Has no one learned anything?Layne is AIC, and AIC is Layne – without Layne, AIC is not AIC – point

  • Bernie Hextall

    I don’t care who wins this battle, as long as Alice In Chains changes the name of the band, I will be happy, even if the band is called “Comes With The Chains” or “Alice In The Fall” or better yet “No Layne No Chains”

    • psychoactive_cereal

      or alice unchained. because layne was freed after death.

  • ARC

    I wish people (Yes you 0822) wouldn’t question the relationships within the band. Yeah, friendships between, lets say Jerry and Layne, had ups and downs (hence, “No Excuses”), but it’s pretty obvious they all loved eachother.

  • SuperSG

    @GwynnKatie
    What’s LSMS stand for?
    Just curious..

  • GenXLady

    @SuperSG- LSMS is Layne Staley, Mike Starr. It is the first and last initials of both former AIC members. Sean Kinney has it on his drum kit. I think it is their way of acknowledging and respecting their contributions to the band and it’s legacy when playing.

  • Mississippi Queen

    Jerry does have narcissistic personality characteristics and Nancy should be entitled to a percentage of anything that was created with Layne. Jesus people, she was his mother, what the hell is wrong with some of you. If any of you had a brother or son that died and they weren’t married don’t you think the mother should be entitled to any including future benefits received.
    Why do some of you put Jerry Cantrell on such a high pedestal? Celebrity net worth says he’s worth 30 million dollars and though I know you can’t believe everything you read on the internet, they’ve been pretty close when it comes to estimating the net worth of a few other celebrities.
    He also just bought a million plus home in Seattle last year and I don’t believe he lives there. And Nancy gets a little over $300,000 dollars.
    If they don’t want to pay up maybe they should change their name to L.A. chains and move on.

  • Josh

    @Mississippi Queen

    You’re completely missing the point. Some of us put Jerry on a high pedestal because of his accomplishments as a musician and the work he has put out over the years. Nobody here gives a shit about how much money he makes or what he does with it. I frankly don’t care if Jerry is an asshole or not. I’ll probably never meet him or any of AiC for that matter. I pay attention to the quality music he puts out and that’s what I connect with.

    As for the the AiC vs Nancy case, I think it’s still too early to know who is at fault. Everyone here is quick to pick sides. I agree that Nancy should continue to receive royalties but it needs to be a fair percentage. Funny though how nobody talks about Sean who is also being sued. I always thought he was the glue that held this band together for the most part. It was Sean who got them back together in 2005 anyway.

  • NiceNcleaN

    I met Jerry in a music store before they got big, just a regular good old boy back then could care less about money. He was looking over all the gear like a kid in a candy shop. I knew who he was and left him alone he just said hi and we talk about guitars and effects pedals.

    I know it’s just one persons take but to me he seems genuinely like a down to earth guy.

  • Mississippi Queen

    I never meant to downplay Jerry’s accomplishments as a musician. I know he’s good at what he does. I was really just agreeing with some of the others on this board. Jerry’s the alpha male of AIC. Like most narcissistic people he sometimes seems to surround himself with less dominate members of his species. Mike Inez and Sean Kinney are more passive aggressive as was Layne in the beginning. I don’t think Mike Starr was. I believe that’s why they but-ted heads. On the other hand that same narcissism often makes great leaders. So I’m really not trying to be negative, it just pisses me off that he just gave an interview bitching about the downloading of his music and yet he don’t want to pay the mother of the co-founder of his band. To me that’s like the pot calling the kettle black.

    Great musicians are a dime a dozen and I don’t think Jerry or Layne would have been that successful without each other. It was the dynamics of those two that made that band so special.

    I would also like to point out; Jerry isn’t the only one who could write a book. Layne had stated in an interview he gave sometime between 96 and 98 that he had been working on a book for a long time. Where do you think that book went? Maybe Nancy got ahold of it and now knows things about her son and the other members of AIC that the rest of us don’t, Yet there seems to be a whole lot of Jerry worshipers that automatically assume Nancy’s being greedy.

    My guess is she’ll be paid off and we won’t know for another ten years

  • 0822

    Nancy is going to win because she is legally in the right. Jerry needs to change the name of the band. He oozed jealously of Layne’s talent. He is not a singer. His solo work proved that point. I see he is sporting the Layne haircut now. He is in the wrong. Period. You will all feel silly when he is forced to pay up and then change the name. You can’t use old songs and artwork to promote new material- which is lacking.

    He isn’t a nice person. I am so glad everyone here is assuming I am some random poster. Aren’t we all? You’re typing back, right? And, furthermore, I should note that those of you who jump in to defend Jerry don’t know him. You know what you built up in your mind. If he wanted to move on then he should have offered to buy out the name, paid Nancy what she is due, or he should have changed the name. You don’t go on tour using old and new material. And, let’s say he only used new material- it still sparks the sale of old material and old merchandise, which means royalties will still come in. Everyone in the band gets a cut of those royalties. So, if it isn’t greed, then explain to me why on top of their cut the members are opting to fight over 16% of money already legally set aside for Layne heirs? No matter who you’re a fan of in the band- what’s right is right.

    I feel the worst for William. How many interviews and magazine covers revolve around Jerry? He is still a prick, still a diva and still trying to make people believe that he, and he alone, is AIC.

    • psychoactive_cereal

      YES! AGREE! THEY CAN’T GO ON TOUR USING OLD MATERIAL THAT LAYNE WROTE! AMEN!!!!

  • 0822

    To further my point above I don’t want to hear jack about William’s cut. William is getting a cut on new material. William should not get Layne’s 16% in full or as a partial cut. Let Jerry Cantrell be happy with the royalties he has already set coming in from past material. Don’t forget that he has royalties due on his new material that “he wrote.” Or, is his new material not as raw as Layne’s past lyrics? Maybe the new material isn’t generating the royalties he would like and he needs to cut into Layne’s 16% to make up for it.

    Jerry Cantrell is pushing 50, his appearance is starting to copy Layne’s and he won’t give up that it is over. The rock scene will never, and unfortunately, be what it was in the 90’s again. Trying to double up your royalty payment through a dick move won’t change this.

  • Daniannie

    I don’t put Jerry Cantrell (or much of anyone else) on a pedestal. I just don’t buy the whole evil Jerry, out to screw Layne crap. It’s interesting to me that Sean Kinney is completely absolved while Jerry Cantrell is the target for this smear campaign. Layne vs Jerry.Yada yada yada.

    Don’t you think the bit about Layne’s mom trying to trademark AIC’s name is just a tiny bit interesting with all the oh, Jerry’s so evil/Jerry’s a narcissist, Jerry’s a moneyhungry starfucker rhetoric? Just a little?

    Did you miss the bit where she would continue to collect royalties for songs Layne wrote? What makes you think Layne’s book, if there was one, was an autobiography? The same conviction that made you decide that Jerry Cantrell is a narcissist without knowing him at all? Or that Mike Inez & Sean Kinney are passive aggressive without knowing them at all? (BTW- that’s not the way I hear it)

    Still want to talk about automatic assumptions?

    Look, I was/am a huge Layne Staley fan. Always have been. But I find the obsession with him & his deceased girlfriend more than a little morbid & the ongoing whitewash of Layne at (primarily) Jerry Cantrell’s expense to be more than a little ridiculous. I won’t even get into the arrogance of the No Layne, no Chains crew. It’s a done deal, folks. Either get on board or get off the train. One less person standing in front of me at tbe shows. Forgive me but you won’t be missed.

    Once again, no pedestals here. Just a little bit of the old devil’s advocate & more than a little plain common sense. It’s simply not a black & white issue. Because people aren’t black & white. St.Layne is a fantasy just as Evil Jerry is & Alice In Chains is still AIC whether you like it or not. Get a grip,y’all.

  • Daniannie

    Oh wait. This is awesome. Cantrell is sporting Layne’s haircut? Seriously?

    What about the other 45347546775469345869504045768304567394764586059 men in the world who have cut their hair & are now wearing it short?

    Are they too, “sporting Layne’s haircut?”

    My husband cut his hair off several years ago & y’know, I never thought about it before, but I guess that there have been times when his hair vaguely resembled Layne’s ‘do.

    He was probably copying Layne too. Even if he’s never actually heard of him, he was probably copying him anyway.

    Because any man who cuts their hair off & wears it short is copying Layne Staley’s style. That just goes without saying.

    Some advice:

    If you are supposed to be in here to dump on Jerry & promote Nancy’s case, focusing on something this silly isn’t going to help things. Because it makes you sound….silly.

    Sweet dreams.

  • Jeff Buckley

    Fuck that old slut!

  • Josh

    “Jerry Cantrell is pushing 50, his appearance is starting to copy Layne’s and he won’t give up that it is over.”

    Congratulations, you have officially elevated yourself to troll status.

    I never knew Layne trademarked the short hair cut. Please enlighten me since you know the band members so well.

  • GwynnKatie

    SuperSG said:
    @GwynnKatie What’s LSMS stand for? Just curious..

    It stands for Layne Staley/Mike Starr. Sean had hand-painted it on his bass drum for the Jimmy Kimmel Live performance, now it’s been professionally painted on his bass. I basically stole it from Sean, as I always say AIC Forever, and after I saw what Sean had done as a tribute, I added it to my signature. I hope he doesn’t mind.
    He probably doesn’t even know…
    Kind of keeps Layne & Mike S. forefront in people’s minds (I hope)

    GenX, <3, as always — right on target.
    "I think it is their way of acknowledging and respecting their contributions to the band and it’s legacy when playing."

    Peace
    AIC/LSMS Forever

  • GwynnKatie

    Oh shit. I stole it from Sean. Now I’m gonna get sued.
    Good lucksters fellas…I work for the Feds and my pay’s been frozen for another two years. I haves no monies. Aheh.
    No — seriously. I’m broke.

    Sorry in advance if I offended anyone.
    Thought a bit of levity might help – but whatever.
    Peace

  • Lennart

    This is obviously timed, 2 weeks before the album release.

  • GwynnKatie

    0765 said:
    Oh incidentally- 0822 is Nancy.

    Actually I believe 0822 is ALICE.

    BUT

    Of course I may be wrong.

    Peace
    AIC/LSMS Forever

  • kat

    Unfortunately I am unable to have kids due to the disheveled state of my trailer and the smell of cat urine. I can’t even find love on Jdate.com or FarmersOnly.com. If I were to have children, I would never do this to their band.

  • LeperFromInside

    I dont know what to tell you guys, seriously. When I met Nance last she was praising AIC’s recent work and saying how Laynevwould be proud so this is kinda out of the blue for me. As always of course I will try and find out as much info as I can. Theres a few guys at the studio I work at who know Nance much better than me who will eventually find out the truth,I think she just feels she’s owed something. I’ll keep you dudes posted as always!

  • GenXLady

    It occurs to me that a lot of other musicians that were around when Layne was around, still are friends with Jerry, Sean, Mike, and now likely Will. Even Susan Silver was at the Music Cares thing honoring Jerry, no? She tried to really help Layne, and no doubt cared for him. Why would all of those different people still associate them, if they were so horrendous?

    The Heart ladies, Soundgarden guys, Mike McCready, Mark Lanegan, Duff McKagan…they have all supported the band in one way or another. Some were at Music Cares event. Some appeared in the recent AIC 23. Duff MacKagan wrote an article awhile ago that he backed those guys. I just can’t see how that many peers of Layne’s would still count Jerry and whoever else in AIC as friends if they were that awful.

    What a sad chapter in Layne’s life story this is looking like. Just what he always hated-his personal business interpreted by the media. I hope it ends well if possible.

  • Josh

    ^this

  • Gannon

    I’m sure it didn’t help matters that the members of AIC ripped Celebrity Rehab which Nancy guest appeared on a new one without saying anything redeeming about it.

  • ALICE

    this band as it were, should be ashamed of themselves at at this point. but narcissists rarely are.
    NONE of you band members have ANY right to the name of Laynes band ALICE. STOP using it!

    last warning… leaks.

    been there done that.

    watch the sun it’s real pretty these days!

    I love you Layne.

    Alice…

  • GenXLady

    Oh ALICE…I just don’t get all of your troll speak on here. Why not just be out with it? The truth should stand up, no? I may be way off here…but I hope you are not being evil or nice, or blogging now about stuffed animal frogs…

  • Saaga

    No idea what’s going on here. Layne wrote, and co-wrote songs with AIC. The one who is in his will, or inherits according to the law, should hav his bits. If he leaves the band, from his own free will, or from death, that’s it. End of money, end of story. The heir should still get his share from the old songs, when they are performed live, on radio etc, but nothing from the new stuff. I think that must be very clear. And yeah, sounds like something Mrs Love-Cobain could do. Has Layne’s money gone to Nancy’s head, or what? (and no matter what about Jerry, even if he’s greedy, if he works for a new album, well sorry, but Layne does not, even if I’d wish he was still around). Go watch Avatar and learn about balance in the universe!

  • GwynnKatie

    GenXLady said:
    Oh ALICE…I just don’t get all of your troll speak on here.
    Why not just be out with it?
    The truth should stand up, no?

    I agree, you think it would. I have tried to pry it out of ALICE, and all I get is veiled comments which point to something sad and/or evil on Jerry’s part. I have given up. Trying to read into or make any sense of what ALICE or this horrible 0822 person says just makes me uncomfortable.
    No proof — only wild and toxic accusations.

    So I go by what I know to be true. What I have investigated on my own, and the energy I felt the night I spoke personally to both Will & Mike Inez (10/16/07).

    I truly feel in my heart that if there was something seriously sinister going on we would all have heard about it by now.

    And I seriously do not understand why 3/4 of a million dollars is not enough money for Layne’s mom. My son is a musician, and were he to become famous, and then pass terribly of a narcotic overdose – I wouldn’t approach his band for a penny, even if it were HIS band.

    I just wouldn’t. I find it to be in bad taste.
    Perhaps Layne wrote a Will that included his Mom that none of us are aware of – I don’t know, just pondering…
    Anyway, no offense meant to anyone, just wanted to say that.

    Peace
    AIC/LSMS Forever

  • GenXLady

    GwynnKatie, I don’t know why I bothered writing anything to ALICE here anyway. I guess in light of this lawsuit thing, that one would think people could just say things straight up. I guess not though. I did a little vague troll speak of my own to him/ her too. I don’t know why I bothered to, because it rally isn’t my business anyway.

    Like you, I just cannot realistically sense any sinister things either. Oh, I am sure the band members had their less than stellar dealings with each other in the past, but truly sinister? I just don’t buy it. There is definitely a major axe to grind for some people for some reason. And truly, it is sad for anyone to be consumed with that much poison in my opinion. It can’t be a very content way to be.

    Anyway, hopefully all of the lawsuit stuff gets worked out somehow.

  • steph

    GwynnKatie ~ Layne didn’t have a will, so in addition to the royalty money, his parents received ALL of his money that he had when he died, the money from the sale of his condo, a car that was recently sold and I am sure his mom was probably paid to go on Celebrity Rehab with Mike Starr. I am not trying to be evil here, but when is it enough? You want 16%, Nancy? Start writing some songs, play an instrument, sing your throat out, practice half your life away and the other half get your ass out on tour. She and Layne’s father should only be paid royalties on songs he wrote. If she signed something years ago, dissolving that right after 10 years, she doesn’t have a leg to stand on, legally. OR for God’s sake, morally. I feel the same way you do, I would NEVER have tainted all the beautiful songs and the legacy Layne left behind, if he were my son. NEVER.

  • http://thesethreechords.blogspot.com/ Shleegy Rocks

    Honestly,
    Jerry should have shown some class,
    (same class and tact and, honor and respect David Grohl showed to his old band,)

    Cantrell should have found a singer that didn’t sound like Layne, and rename the band, and write new songs and try not to suck the life out of a legacy he was fortunate to be a part of. I would have had more respect for the guy had he moved on, as all of us fans had too.

  • hate the new guy covering laynes work

    why do they even call themselves AIC? seen them when they started this cover band. cause the stuff is not AIC! they just need to rename themselves, because listening to this new guy covering Laynes stuff just is so sad because he is trying to make it his own and it’s not! R.I.P. Layne.

  • psychoactive_cereal

    Nancy & the layne staley foundation/fund SHOULD STILL MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE SONGS LAYNE WROTE AND RECORDED IF THE NEW AIC IS GOING TO PLAY THEM AT SHOWS OR RE-RECORD THEM. as if it isn’t hurtful enough that they are still using the name and singing layne’s songs on tour and what not…just disgusted..i don’t like the Jerry very much! this is all the for the cash, this is the them overstaying their 15 minutes of fame

  • MissEricaDarling

    Let\’s leave Courtney out of this one. This is one headline she\’s not mentioned in or a part of. xx

  • MissEricaDarling

    You are exactly right. I was a full blown heroin addict for four years, was forced to get clean for about a year, and then got right back into it for another three. Currently on the methadone clinic so I\’m not out of the woods yet. My whole point is, no one can make an addict do anything really. Yes you can force them to get clean, but they won\’t STAY clean if they don\’t want it for themselves. I know exactly where Layne was, what state of mind, etc…. I\’ve been through that Hell, I\’ve seen it and lived it. He had his own struggles and demons to deal with and NO ONE could\’ve helped him but himself, unfortunately. I corresponded with Layne\’s mom for quite some time after his death and we shared some pretty personal stuff. She loved/s Layne with all her heart and she misses him everyday. She once told me that it was very hard for her to hear the phone or the doorbell ring at her house because she knew every time she picked up that phone, every time she opened that door… that it would NEVER be her son there on the other end, never ever again. It was tough for her. I do not think she is in this for the money, I think she just wants what is due to her incredible son. Layne Staley WAS Alice In Chains. He was the voice and the image. Jerry\’s voice is nothing without Layne\’s harmonies in the back. That\’s just my opinion though. All in all, you can\’t blame his mom, his sister, his friend, his girlfriend, his dog, his cat or anyone for the decisions Layne made. Yes, it really fucking sucks that his father just popped back into his life and got him hooked back on dope after he had been clean for awhile in the early 90\’s, and yes his father had set a shitty example, but ultimately (and unfortunately), Layne made the decisions for himself. That\’s the first thing they teach you in recovery, to accept responsibility for your decisions and actions. It just really sucks and sad to know that he was all alone up in that apartment, depressed and wasting away. I only wish that he could\’ve seen the beauty in himself that me and a million others see.

  • http://gravatar.com/patriot67 Rick J McCallum

    You\’re dead wrong JEFF & MIAAlso the saddest part of this entire story .. other than the death of Dark Angle is the fact that THE LAWYERS ARE GONNA END UP WITH THE LIONS SHARE OF THE MONEY IN THIS DEALNOT JERRY OR MRS MCCALLUMI COULD SEE JERRY\’S POINT \”IF\” LAYNE DIDN\’T HAVE A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS MOM BUT THATS JUST NOT THE CASE LAYNE TOOK CARE OF HER BEFORE HIS DEATH…. SO THAT REINFORCES HER CLAIM if she was executor of Laynes will & he retained his part of the band when he died and especially SINCE Layne supported her,… she is still entitled to money from the band . These are the things that need to be handled before a person dies so this stuff doesn\’t transpire to begin with . I\’m sure it was discussed between Jerry and Layne somewhere along the way \” if anything happens to one or the other ..make sure my mother is taken care of\” I mean would you have said something along those lines I know I would have in fact Id have put it in writing. \”SLUDGEFACTORY\” says it best .. \”Now the body of one soul I adore wants to die You have always told me you\’d not live past 25 I say stay long enough to repay all who cause strife By the way ….by the way..\”Get that Jerry? Be a man and take care of Laynes mom.. like you said you \”Would!\”p.s. sORRY ABOUT THE CAPS THERE IN THE BEGINNING BUT I\’m not re typing all that SORRY YOU HAVE LOOK UPON THE GREED & STRIFE TEARING APART THE THINGS YOU LOVED MOST IN THIS WORLD YOU ONCE PLAYED IN R.I.P. LAYNE IF THATS POSSIBLESINCERELY ~Rick McCallum

  • marjorie

    Are you people retarded? I love how you say layne hindered the band without layne nobody would\\’ve gave two shits about that band. He made aic! He wrote their first breakout single from facelift man in the box people fell in love with layne staley not jerry! How did jerrys slo projec t go? Shitty yea bc noone cares about him! Also laynes drug addiction brought the band so much publicity everyone loves a bad boy without him and his vocalability which is what they are known most for aic would be nothing just like they are now!!! Jerry is pissed at layne its not even funny you can hear it in the lyrics of your decision you feed the fire that burned us all he blames him bc he knows that he needed him to be successful and it made him sick bc he wished he could\\’ve kicked him to the curb for making them miss out but he tried to do his own thing and noone cared! Boohoo sorry for your luck jerry but face it noone likes you they loved layne and everything layne did was succesful with or without aic for example mad season class of 99 he didn\\’t need aic they needed him end of story nancy deserves royalties until she dies for the work her son gave the world! F*** off jerry I hate your lame ugly ass!

  • dreamer102088

    Jeanne
    Yes Jerry could’ve released some autobiography to get some extra money, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t all about money just because he didn’t, probably he wouldn’t release any book because he’s an egomaniac and he doesn’t want to air his dirty laundry.