New Scott Weiland Song “Pretty Mess” Leaks

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Photo credit: Corey Hickok

Late Stone Temple Pilots frontman Scott Weiland recorded a demo for a song titled “Pretty Mess” in 1997-1998 according to BelowEmpty.com. It was recorded for Spice Girls member Ginger Spice’s first solo album Schizophonic. She passed on it and didn’t use it, but 20 years later it has surfaced on YouTube.

Weiland did some collaborations throughout his 23-year recording career with pop artists, including recording his own version of Pharrell Williams’ future hit “Happy” in 2006, before Pharrell took the song back for himself and released it a few years later with heavily reworked lyrics.

Lyrics:

You’re getting over on me
Don’t pull one over on me
Your time is ticking like a time bomb, baby
You’re such a pretty mess, boy
You better fess up baby
Your time is ticking but your time is running out

These things, These things, are really real to me
My real time is running out
(Such a pretty mess)

Listen
You’re getting over on me
Don’t pull one over on me
Your time is ticking like a time bomb, baby
You’re such a pretty mess, boy
You better fess up baby
You keep on ticking but your time is running out

  • makingconnections

    I know this is a “pop” song, but I like it. Scott comes through and I can imagine him dancing to it. It’s thrilling actually!

    • Kay B

      Sounds like a song you would get down to.

      • makingconnections

        Absolutely!

        • Kay B

          I posted Happy below. The version by Pharrell makes me want to punch babies. Okay puppies we will go with puppies.

          • makingconnections

            Yes, It’s classic Scott Weiland….all the undulation and emotion in his voice…he’s the best. I’ve been listening to him with Stone Temple Pilots on U-Tube tonight.

            I’ve been thinking about your poem and the arts in general since reading it a week or so again. The beautiful thing about music, poetry and art in general is that you can express so much without trying to convince or argue or provoke. It’s a way of stating your truth at a certain time and it stands forever. When I think of all we spoke about in the past year and how there’s still so much confusion and then I read your poem and it seems clear and not so complicated. That’s the gift that the arts are I believe.

          • Kay B

            Mental health has really taken a back seat to many issues in the US. We have to hear about Trump and his Russian friends and porn star girlfriends. Why he canceled the Super Bowl meeting at the White House. All this stupid shit that will never end or have an ending. But we skip over mental health and then when some one is a suicide victim we blame them and say they are cowards, selfish and going to hell. That is what I read every day. It’s bullshit and it needs to stop.

          • makingconnections

            I’m sorry about what’s happening in your country Kay. When you have a sense of outrage over the leadership you have as you do, it is a lot to carry. I watch US news programs often and the journalists are so bright and outraged too and yet you are stuck with yahoos running the country. Many people must be just ignoring it and getting on with their lives.
            I have some friends who came here as refugees from the Bosnian War. She’s Serbian and he from Croatia. They were in their 20’s, had a small baby and living with his parents on a farm and working at jobs in factories. They heard talk of political unrest and didn’t pay it any mind until one night they were shot at through their bedroom window. (because they were a couple of different ethnic groups…ones that were at war). They barely survived.

            We have to pay attention to the needs of others and who’s leading us, but I don’t know if so many citizens understand that. I think others, like Canadians for instance, are really frightened of Donald Trump and what his madness could lead to. Europeans and British people too are generally deeply concerned. Every time I have a casual conversation with people at parks etc. – American politics always comes up: “What is he going to do to the world.” He’s really controlling the agenda isn’t he? He continually deflects from the serious issues with goofy stuff and in the meantime those with problems are last on the list I agree.
            It’s bad enough here and we’re working on it. Still, here too, there are those that don’t think depression and mental health is their problem and their tax dollars shouldn’t be spent to help the poor or troubled. It’s our selfishness that’s the real problem I suppose.

          • makingconnections

            –and tomorrow the Trump Show comes to the G7 meetings in Canada. He doesn’t want to come, feeling he’ll be lectured. He’s a petulant child and is truly ignorant.

            What I can’t understand is why are the people supporting him to the degree that they are? Some say because the economy is doing well, others say they like it when he fights with other countries. What the Hell is going on? Do people really care so little? Is it right-wing religion, gone crazy? Is it lack of education? Or is it only caring about the well being of our own little family…I’m O.K., that’s all that matters.

          • Kay B

            I see trump wished Muslims a happy Ramadan even thought he really hates them. I don’t know what to say. Only a few players from the Super Bowl team were willing to go to the White House so Trump canceled it because he was embarrassed no one wants to see him. I always think of the song “Megalomaniac” by Incubus when I think of Trump. I am seeing this band next month. I am looking forward to hearing it live.

          • makingconnections

            That song was written so long ago–George Bush and Iraq War era? Are we going to be cursed with people who make poor decisions forever?

            I was shopping in Istanbul during that time and was looking at a necklace in a tiny shop…I wasn’t sure about it and an old man pulled a curtain aside and said: “Give it to her: I love George Bush!”

          • Kay B

            Yes the video had a man in it that resembled Bush/Hitler. Either way I think it’s a great song and it doesn’t have to be about anyone for me to enjoy it. I saw Lykke Li was just on T.V. I really enjoy her music. I would check out “I follow rivers. I’ll post below. She has some very good stuff.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYkkblUFnhc

          • makingconnections

            I like this woman, Lykke Li too. I Follow Rivers I will listen to over and over again I know. My psyche is so connected to water, whether it’s nature or “Interstitium”. haha! I’ve told quite a few people about the new discovery but they looked at me like I was crackers so I stopped. They’ll just have to live without the knowledge!

            Thank you for the heads up! I watch a lot of dance and I see something in Lykke Li that is very artistic…she seems strong and brave and exposed somehow.

          • Kay B

            This song is incredible. I don’t know if you have heard it. It really makes me forget about my surroundings and puts me in a different place. I really like the break in the song so you can reflect how beautiful it is.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMeOllo_Vo

          • makingconnections

            No Kay, I don’t know this artist, but I will listen and watch more. She’s enchanting. There’s something beautiful about the way she sings; it’s restrained, in a similar way to Jeff Buckley, in the way it impacts me anyway. But her movements and the way she puts it together with her song is so unique isn’t it?!

          • Kay B

            Yes! I completely understand the Jeff Buckley comment. You are right. The first song I heard from her was “Get Some.” This song comes off as being sexist and demeaning, but I think it is the opposite. I think it’s about the woman controlling the man. Either way I heard this song and I was like who is that? I have to listen to her more!
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TTPGAy5H_E

          • makingconnections

            Wow!! This woman is very brave as an artist…very impressive.

            This song reminds me of something my husband said when we were first together and he was trying to figure out what was going on: “I guess there’s just a certain amount of power and we have to share it around.”

          • Kay B

            Oh and this video has unique movements as well. I’m interested in your interpretation of the video.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIruwzhozTc

          • makingconnections

            This one is different than all the others and speaks to me of the violence, division, and horror of hating and using weapons. In the meantime some of the young people are showing off their moves and dressing provocatively and are completely unaware of the suffering and fear going on in war-torn countries. There some children are using weapons, the ultimate horror. The point is made throughout that we go about our lives and allow others to suffer…there’s chaos everywhere….almost too much truth to bear.

            Notice she’s not sexualized at all, too busy hiding her femininity in order to survive. She’s walking along a dividing trench at one point–very symbolic.
            I think this video incorporates so much modern dance, and under the coat she’s wearing a typical modern dance leotard. So there’s my interpretation at this point in time…I’ll watch it again and maybe have a different take. That happens often!

            This video must touch you being so freaked out by guns.

          • Kay B

            I think your take is great. I think that women who twerk have no self awareness or esteem. And even though the physical abuse wasn’t the woman’s fault, as it never is, it also rips self esteem. I keep thinking how ridiculous Miley Cyrus was a few years ago with the twerking when her body looked like a 12 yo boy. I was hoping she would move to Canada!

          • makingconnections

            Yes, moving to Canada would be good for Ms. Cyrus, because if she lived where I do, she wouldn’t know about “twerking”. I remember thinking at the time that she was ripping off black culture somehow, but didn’t give it much thought. I must admit to thinking that it was very much a black woman’s dance. Where and when these dances are performed matter to me. I remember a little girl, perhaps 10 years old, whose dance teacher wanted their group to perform in the mall and she said indignantly: “I will not perform in that skimpy costume in a mall!” I love it when they have such a strong instinct to take care of themselves.

          • makingconnections

            Oh you’d never punch a puppy you silly! It’s an indication of how no one is to mess with Scott Weiland though!

  • Olga Stewart

    I wish Scott had been able to both finish the song and then release it.

    It’s good.

  • Kay B

    His version is wayyyyyy better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA21coRMw18

    • Olga Stewart

      I’ve heard Pharrell’s version of this song.

      But now that I have heard Scott’s version (for the first time), I much prefer his (Scott’s) version.

  • Georgia

    This song is awesome! A different sound from Scott, I love it!!

    • makingconnections

      He could do anything! Have you seen the performances with “The Doors” on U-Tube?