Legendary former Marilyn Manson keyboardist Madonna Wayne Gacy (aka Pogo) has continued to rip legendary Smashing Pumpkins icon Billy Corgan on Facebook. He linked to Alternative Nation’s article from yesterday. He took several shots at Corgan’s Siddhartha recording project, and commented on the past and present feuds between Corgan and original Smashing Pumpkins bassist D’arcy Wretzky, blaming Corgan being an ‘arsehole.’
“Makes me ashamed of f****** 90s alternative music… and I’m part of that too! But why call him ‘William Patrick’? Not to be a dick, but it reminds me of when people would call Trent Reznor: “Michael”… like they knew his ass from childhood?”
“If he believes in reptilians more than leprechauns, I’m going to report him to the Hibernian Society!”
“I don’t know if Billy ever did drugs to be honest. I know Darcy did, and who doesn’t find crack fun? But ultimately, Billy is a piece of s***, and she was a decent human being. Drugs are irrelevant to the question. Again, as stated previously, I think Billy Corgan would have a bigger excuse for being an arsehole if he was a drug addict like Brian.”
“Not that there’s anything good about being a drug addict… or really anything bad about it, unless it turns you into an a******, then it’s bad but at least gives you an excuse.?”
Ky Zhoul commented, “I admire what a truth based and common sense man you are.. Never Change, brother… and poor D’Arcy… he knows that without her nobody gives a shit about a ANOTHER half assed Pumpkins reunion.”
Pogo responded, “She’s a good person.”
“Just to be clear, I’m not loving your post because I’m somehow commonsensical or truthful… I just think he f***** over D’Arcy.”
He also discussed yesterday’s article.
“Hey, for once they actually credited all you motherfu*kers besides me… their ‘journalism’ is moving up in the world! Let the comedic feedback continue ad infinitum.”
“Can I buy shares in Alternative Nation, because I feel really good about their future prospects? And seriously, I feel like I owe them some money.”
“The fact that I’m called ’90’s Legend’ is the most hysterical and inaccurate thing!”
Jeremiah Saint commented, “Damn I missed my chance to post Charlie Brown at disneyland.”
Pogo responded, “Hey, Charlie Brown may have been a bald loser… but at least he wasn’t arrogant about it.”
Jeremiah Saint commented, “Well, he grew up into William Corgan. LOL.”
Pogo responded, “In fact, I would argue that Charlie Brown was actually endearing, the antithesis of Billy Corgan.”
Below are more Pogo comments.
“Billy Corgan might look like Charlie Brown but he acts like Schroeder.”
“Trent Reznor and Charlie Clouser in their pinky fingers have more knowledge about synthesizers than Billy Corgan has in his giant bald f****** head!”
“Oh my God, I just had an epiphany: just like Brian Warner thinks he’s David Bowie, Billy Corgan thinks he’s Brian Eno! I mean why else would you release box sets of ridiculous synthesizer and radio noises for hundreds of dollars unless you thought you were f****** Brian Eno… who could actually do a good job with it, like ‘music for airports’?”
“It all makes sense now, except Brian Eno is a humble, decent, human being who actually does make art and experimental music… while Billy Corgan is a walking, talking, piece of human feces that makes faux art and bullsh*t noise!”
“Is ‘Siddhartha’ a type of synth or is he actually using the name of the Buddha for his pompous self-indulgent crap?”
“Hey I’ll sell you an eight-hour box Jam of synthesizer crap for $8 if you want it? Seriously I got f****** tons of that crap. At one point in time, I tried to write the world’s longest song… it would literally take hours upon hours of CDs, because it was set at exactly 1 BPM.”
“His electronic stuff is like a chimpanzee with a typewriter, given enough time they can write Shakespeare.”
“I mean by pure random chance: if you make a billion things, a whole bunch are bound to be good.”
“I think that’s why he is so ‘prolific’ as they say: he is just cranking out so much crap… he will inevitably make something good.”
“That reminds me of that John 5 style of writing songs: write enough songs and you’re bound to make one that doesn’t suck.”
“Not that John 5 is a shitty songwriter, but that he writes so much crap for every good thing he writes.”
“When you want to do everything, or you’re not sure what you want to do, when you lack Focus, you tend to make a lot of crap.”
“That’s what makes John 5 such an amazing collaborator: if you focus all of that diffused ability, you have a f****** laser beam at your disposal.”
“I mean unlike Billy Corgan, John 5 is a nice guy, with a lot of talent. And I’m sorry to talk s*** about him, but I’m just going to say what I’m going to say.”
“I think Rob Zombie won the f****** Lottery when he got John 5 and Ginger in his band. Those two motherf*ckers can play! Both are infinitely more talented than I will ever be.”
“I mean let’s be honest here, both Ginger and John 5 were brought into the band because of their sheer f****** talent and ability.”
“Sorry to go off on a tangent, but not in any particular order of ability, but chronologically: Ginger, John, and Thim were the best musicians I ever saw in that band.”
“Ginger is a born musician: innate rhythm and tonality. John is the definition of someone who cares about his craft: well-practiced, skilled and trying to be the best virtuoso. Thim is the thinking man’s musician: his abilities range far and wide (musically and visually) and he can focus both physical and mental effort into anything.”
“I know these are over-generalizations, and scant descriptions… but I’m in the moment right now.”
“Not trying to be a dick, but John 5 had nowhere near the unique creativity and artistic quality that Daisy or Zim had.”
“Ultimately, it has been my great pleasure to know all of these gentlemen. And it saddens me to know that two of them have left this Earth too soon. Aufwiedersehen Brad and Scott… we will see each other again.”
“Hey kids, just to be clear here: a lot of what I do is comedy… even though it can be dark and hurtful, I really don’t have a problem with most people. And I certainly don’t think it’s right to mock people for disabilities or birth defects… unless they’re complete assholes like Billy Corgan, then go right ahead.??”
“Just like I don’t think it’s right to make fun of old people falling down in the dark… unless of course it’s Brian Warner, high as a kite, knocking over his own sh*t on top of himself, in order that he might create some “stage presence” and at least attempt to give the kids their money’s worth.”
“And that my friends, is what we in the comedy business refer to as a ‘call back’.”
“I really feel like talking some s*** about Alice Cooper, but I wont. And I definitely won’t say s*** about Ozzy, he’s my god.”
“I think I’m like that Kathy Griffith or Kathy Griffin or whatever her dumbass name is… you know, talking s*** about the people I know in Hollywood and making money from it… oh that’s right, I’m not making any money from this.”
Billy Corgan wrote on Instagram on Thursday:
“Knowing most don’t read these missives is a somewhat dangerous temptation. Because it does encourage me to speak freely. But let’s be honest: free speech is a rapidly devolving concept, and many are now faced with a historical choice, which is speak your peace and invite anything but, or simply stay quiet and watch the world as you know it disintegrate before what I am consistently told is my untrustworthy eye. As in: ‘Hey mister, what you see happening isn’t really happening. Got it?’
I beg to differ, and hence the conundrum. So let’s just say i choose to speak through my work, and if you can hear what’s actually being said, all the better.
It also occurs to me that the need for othering, occlusion, or what passes nowadays for social shame has been carefully engineered over millennia as a most decided instrument of control. Or, to put it bluntly, what would be the need for such use of force. Or-or as Mick Jagger once said, ‘Why break a butterfly on a wheel?’ Lastly, I would like to illuminate something I said in a recent interview, where I referred to my rejection of the shadow world that is presented to us all as some new kind of Utopia. If you see the world through your window a simple, polemic choice: real or not real, sunny or raining, your humanity should kick in and say ‘It is my wish to know.’ And it’s that wish that comes from your own knowing that makes these choices easy. Break a false dream and you are free. Accept it and you will work at the behest of something unseen. To me, the stuff of nightmares. To others, cold comfort.”
