10 Reasons Why Kurt Cobain Wasn’t Murdered

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This article was written by Mike Ratherson and originally was published on Alternative Nation in April 2014. Read the new version with photos below.

kurtcobain171. None of Kurt’s bandmates or close relatives, including his daughter and mother, believe that he was murdered.

kurtcobainsmokingnew2. Kurt’s great-uncles, brothers Burle and Kenneth Cobain, both committed suicide by self-inflicted gunshots to the head with Burle also shootingt himself in the stomach in 1979 and 1984 respectively. Kurt allegedly told an eighth grade friend, Rod Marsh, that he had “suicide genes” citing Burle’s and other relatives suicides. (Source: Heavier Than Heaven: A Biography of Kurt Cobain, By Charles R. Cross.)

kurtcobaindrumming3. Kurt made a Super-8 film as a teenager which depicts him violently cutting and stabbing himself with a knife. Kurt was photographed several times pointing guns at his head and also into his mouth in the same manner as his suicide. Although at the time the film and photos may have been meant to be comical or irreverent, they are hauntingly eerie in retrospect.

Kurt Cobain of Nirvana (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)
Kurt Cobain of Nirvana (Photo by Kevin Mazur/WireImage)

4. Kurt reportedly told eighth grade friend John Fields while walking home from school, “I’m going to be a superstar musician, kill myself, and go out in a flame of glory … I want to be rich and famous and kill myself like Jimi Hendrix.” At the time Kurt believed Hendrix’ death was a suicide. (Source: Heavier Than Heaven: A Biography of Kurt Cobain, By Charles R. Cross)

courtneykurtred5. Kurt wrote in his posthumously published 2002 book Journals (also depicted a scene in the film 2015 film Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck) that he once tried to commit suicide as a teen by laying on train tracks only to have the train come down the wrong tracks next to him.

nirvanasuits6. Kurt Cobain’s lyrics were full of direct and veiled references to suicide:

Song: “I Hate Myself and Want To Die” – the name of a Nirvana song, the original title for the album “In Utero”, and Kurt shocked his bandmates by showing up to a show wearing a custom made T-Shirt with this phrase on it.

Song: “Milk It”
Lyric:
“Look on the bright side, suicide.”

Song: “Scentless Apprentice”
Lyrics:
“I lie in the soil and fertilize mushrooms.
Leaking out gas fumes are made into perfume.
You can’t fire me because I quit!
Throw me in the fire and I won’t throw a fit.”

Song: “You Know You’re Right”
Lyrics (the song is loaded with a veiled suicide references):
“I would never bother you.
Never speak a word again.
I will crawl away for good…
Always knew it would come to this…
Pain…
You Know You’re Right.”

nirvana937. Nirvana MTV Unplugged, Nov. 18, 1993. To me this was Kurt’s planned epitaph 5 months before his death:

Cobain suggested that the stage be decorated with stargazer lilies, black candles, and a crystal chandelier. Cobain’s request prompted the show’s producer to ask him, “You mean like a funeral?”, to which the singer replied, “Exactly. Like a funeral.”
Five of the six songs cover songs during Nirvana’s MTV ‘Unplugged’ performance have lyrics that reference death. (Source: Heavier Than Heaven: A Biography of Kurt Cobain, By Charles R. Cross)

Some Common Kurt Cobain Murder Arguments & Rebuttals:

kurtfrancesbottle8. “If Kurt had taken a lethal heroin overdose he would not be able to pull the trigger.”

Heroin addicts have increasingly high drug tolerances. Even a so-called “lethal dose of heroin” would not necessarily have necessarily killed Kurt Cobain, a longtime addict with a reportedly high tolerance level.

A 1999 Swiss study where heroin addicts were allowed to take as much heroin as they wanted found that many individuals were able to function daily while taking 300 to 500 mgs of heroin per day. In one extraordinary case a man was able to function on 2gs per day. According to Cobain murder conspiracy theorist Tom Grant, Kurt had 225 mgs of heroin in his body the day he died or 1.52/mgs per liter of morphine in his blood according to his autopsy in the Seattle Police Report. Grant theorizes that this level is “three times a lethal dose of heroin” was was well below the level of severe but functioning accidents according to the Swiss study. If Kurt could function at well below the level of the heroin addicts tested in the Swiss study he would not have been “instantly killed” by that dose and would be able to function and pull a shotgun trigger.

cobaingunnew29. ‘There was hardly any blood. If Kurt shot himself in his head there would have been more blood.’

Kurt shot himself using a bird-shot shotgun round into his mouth. George W. Bush’s then-Vice President Dick Cheney shot his hunting buddy with a bird-shot round which is considered light shotgun round. If fired into a person’s head through their mouth, a bird-shot round would probably kill them but would not necessarily penetrate through the back of their skull. This would explain why there was so little blood found at the scene and why the security installation technician who discovered Kurt said he looked like he was sleeping.

kurtcourtneyfrances310. “Courtney Love hired someone to murder Kurt Cobain because they were going to get a divorce.”

Just hours after performing on Saturday Night Live on January 11, 1992, one week before ‘Nevermind’ hit number one on the charts, Kurt reportedly overdosed on drugs. Courtney Love allegedly found him at 7:00 am the next morning lying on the floor overdosed. She said she revived him by splashing water on his face and punching him in the stomach.

In July 1993, Kurt was scheduled to perform at the New Music Seminar in New York City. Prior to the show, Kurt allegedly shot up too much heroin which resulted in an accidental overdose. Courtney Love said she injected Kurt with Narcan and then punched him in the chest which resuscitated Kurt who went on to perform later that night as if nothing had happened.

On March 3, 1994, one month before Cobain’s death Courtney love said Kurt overdosed on 50 Rohypnol tablets and champagne in Rome, Italy and allegedly wrote a suicide note. Courtney discovered him blue and overdosed, called an ambulance and Kurt was rushed to the hospital where he eventually recovered from a coma. Although Nirvana’s management company called the incident an accidental overdose, after Kurt’s death Courtney called it a suicide attempt. Tom Grant has theorized that Love slipped her own Rohypnol tablets into Kurt’s champagne in an attempt to murder him.

Grant theorizes that after Kurt’s death Courtney made up that the Rome overdose was a suicide attempt. However there is no doubt that Kurt overdosed on something in Rome and that Courtney saved his life by calling an ambulance which rushed him to a hospital and saved his life. Kurt was in a coma for many hours before he regained consciousness. If Courtney wanted Kurt dead why didn’t he just let him overdose and die in Rome? Why did she save her husband’s life who Grant alleges she allegedly wanted dead?

Although I don’t believe Courtney was a stabilizing influence on Kurt’s life or I also don’t believe he was a stabilizing force in her’s. I also don’t believe that Country had any motive or need to have him killed. Even if they divorced she would still be set for life financially. Grant has alleged that Kurt was threatening to write Courtney out of his will. The problem with that theory is Kurt left no legal will at the time of his death. Also you can’t legally just write your current spouse out of your will. According to a 2013 CNBC article, “Any lawyer will tell you that the spouse can waive the will and receive whatever he or she is entitled to under state law.” Why would Courtney want to have Kurt murdered and leave their daughter fatherless a month after she had the opportunity to let him die in Rome but instead chose to saved his life?

Cobain murder conspiracy believers deny that a severe heroin addict, who flirted with death every time he shot heroin, would be capable of killing himself. They love Kurt and hate Courtney, so obviously it’s easier to blame her for Kurt’s death. Kurt has been painted by people like Tom Grant as a happy, easily controlled person who was unwittingly murdered by his greedy wife who wanted all of his money. The 1998 film Kurt and Courtney gave rise to many Cobain murder conspiracy theories. But even the filmmaker Nick Bloomfield does not believe that Kurt was murdered. In the film, Kurt’s best friend, Dylan Carlson, who bought him the suicide shotgun with Kurt’s money said, “If I seriously thought Kurt had been murdered, the people, if I thought Courtney was involved … They would be dead now, flat out. I would kill them if I thought that was the case.”

If Kurt’s bandmates and closest family members who knew him best don’t believe he was murdered why do so many of Kurt’s fans feel a need to blame Courtney for his murder? There were warning signs that Kurt was depressed and suicidal in his music, in his statements to childhood friends and in interviews with reporters. Anyone who uses heroin is basically flirting with death. Kurt’s flirtation with death finally ended tragically on April 5, 1994. I believe the shocking manner of his death was a conscious decision on Kurt’s part because he had attempted to commit suicide by overdose numerous times unsuccessfully. With the shotgun he ensured that no one would be able to revive him.

Kurt Cobain and Nirvana changed the course of rock music. Nirvana popularized a new style of rock music in the early 90s than laid to waste much of the hair metal bands that had dominated the music charts in the late 80s. Even though I didn’t know him, at the time of Kurt death it felt like I had lost a friend. I have read four biographical books about Kurt Cobain. Kurt has been dead for over 23 years. If the people who personally loved him and knew him best believe he committed suicide I see no reason to dispute that.

It’s unfortunate that many people who only knew Kurt through his music and video clips, many of whom were not even born when he died, choose to spend much of their lives filled with anger because that feel that he was murdered. These people were not personally affected by his death the way his bandmates, close family and friends were. I will always love Nirvana’s music but find it hard to listen to Nirvana without being reminded of Kurt’s tragic death. Kurt called himself a “death rocker” in his suicide note. I think Kurt always had a death wish and it eventually just caught up with him. In Nirvana’s final song Kurt wrote, “Always knew it would come to this … Pain … You know you’re right.” My interpretation of these lyrics are that Kurt always knew he would commit suicide from an early age. His chronic stomach pain and addictions made him believe that suicide was unfortunately his only way out. Let Kurt Cobain rest in peace. His music will live on forever.

  • John Titor

    Hi Courtney,
    Nice article you ghost wrote here. Too bad it’s filled with tons of inaccuracies, opinions and assumed conclusions.

  • andrejbc

    bullshit and again bullshit…Brett Buchanan is a young guy and a Nirvana fan sucha as me than I was a 15 🙂

  • Adam

    The heroin was 3 times the lethal does even to a heavy heroin user. So many “facts” were left unchecked here, pathetic article. Writer should be ashamed.

  • Adam

    How about how optimistic Kurt was, such as when he responded on the internet 2 days before his death to an article about his music, showing his happiness that people on the internet were interested in his next album

  • Adam

    How about the guy who claims Courtney offered him 50k to “whack” Kurt, after revealing he knew who did the deed, 2 weeks later he’s unconscious on train tracks & gets killed…

  • Adam

    Kristen Pfaff also died under a mysterious circumstance involving an overdose 2 months after Kurt, her mother still does not believe she overdosed. Kristen was even thought to be “with” Kurt Cobain – that’s motive for courtney

  • Adam

    How about the PRENUPTIAL AGREEMENT that was singed before Kurt & Courtney got hitched. How about him filing for Divorce shortly before he winds up dead. And the fact that if he commits suicide being the ONLY way she gets more than a small sum of money from his death or divorce. Motive for Murder – over a billion dollars in potential future royalties.

  • Adam

    How about the HANDWRITING PRACTICE SHEETS found in COURTNEYS BACKPACK at Kurt & her lawyers house similar to the bottom lines of Kurts “suicide” note

  • Adam

    How about Kurts love for his DAUGHTER and the fact that any parent that in love with parenting their child wouldn’t be considering suicide

    • Madeline

      As he states in the note, he thought her life would be better without him. That’s a very common, devastating, and false point of view people end up taking when ending their life.

  • Adam

    Does this writer know anything that was actually true – how about the fact that the MTV spot on Kurt being missing – reported by his “MOTHER” – that report actually being made by Courtney. All the rumors about Kurt being suicidal stem from COURTNEY. Even the Uncle myth – they were NOT suicides. Read a different article that might have some truth, this one is garbage.

  • Iammese

    I don’t know if he was murdered or committed suicide. I have never claimed to know and I probably never will. But I know a lot of your information is incorrect, for example, his band-mates and close friends have gone on record saying he wasn’t suicidal. It doesn’t matter though, even if you are suicidal that doesn’t mean someone can’t kill you and just because Courtney Love saved him from overdosing a few times doesn’t mean she didn’t regret it or wouldn’t want him dead the next day. Maybe she just couldn’t do it herself and couldn’t stand to see him die in front of her. You don’t know what happened any more than I do or the rest of the people reading this or commenting in this thread.

  • Contrarian

    I wish he didn’t commit suicide. Then we wouldn’t be hearing so much about the asshole. In fact, I bet we’d all be laughing our asses off as he tried to reboot his career doing some rap collaboration, or other dumb shit. The dude was over-rated and a bullet gave him eternal fame.

    • dendrite

      How disgusting to hate someone for existing. I can’t believe the mod here liked your comment.

  • John Titor

    LOL, I love how the mods keep posting rewrites and add ons to this article in the comments section but keep deleting counterpoints left and right.

  • Madeline

    I hope that anyone can see that Kurt was someone at very high risk for suicide, not just because of his acute addiction but due to other mental illness (depression/bipolar, whatever went undiagnosed). He was a very troubled person obsessed with suicide. For those reasons I get very annoyed when people say things like “he had no motive to do it”. I know that the ultimate suicide vs murder argument is never going to end (of course I’m confident it was suicide, personally), but I’d like people to at least see that as much as it sucks, suicide makes a hell of a lot of sense.

    • Corndog

      Whoa, back up there a second Madeline. That sounds suspiciously like sense you’re making. Doesn’t happen often with this subject:)

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  • Viktor Borisov

    Cobain was murdered!

    If you interesting this person please do know about investigation and police facts.

    You will shame because in the future the true come.

    And that he was say about “I hate myself and I want to die” album name:

    ‘As literal as a joke can be. Nothing more than a joke. And that had a bit to do with why we decided to take it off. We knew people wouldn’t get it; they’d take it too seriously. It was totally satirical, making fun of ourselves. I’m thought of as this pissy, complaining, freaked–out schizophrenic who wants to kill himself all the time. “He isn’t satisfied with anything.” And I thought it was a funny title. I wanted it to be the title of the album for a long time. But I knew the majority of the people wouldn’t understand it.’

  • Oriel Collins

    The suicide running in his family is a myth. One uncle shot himself in the foot in a bar, the other one fell down a flight of stairs. Anything quoting Charles Cross is straight up bullshit practically written by CL so. It’s completely irrelevant source material. He wasn’t suicidal until he was no longer around to say otherwise. His mother & CL said so? *SCOFF* Get a fking grip. His mother is a liar with millions of dollars right about now. Even more. They just released a FKING T-Mobile commercial. Do you know how much money these assholes are making from a dead man? A man who wanted to live. But most of you are so brainwashed by his “image”. Realize that a LOT of people made and continue to make MILLIONS in revenue to perpetuate this “death of a rockstar”. Most of you in denial of this are basic younger gen, who are mostly media lemmings. CL had a direct line to the AP and uses gossip positive or negative for or against people her entire career, but ya’ll just lap it up it’s ludicrous. Do some research on how his actual friends felt about it. The circumstantial evidence is stacked highly toward murder, it always has been, it just happened to be smothered in media coverage saying the most derogatory outlandish statements. Kurt hated most of the media, and they always returned the favor.

    The means, motive, method are all there.

    The problem is not many of you understand what it was like before the internet and digital media. And you don’t really understand the culture before this broke. The before and after of Nevermind. This would have been incredibly easy to accomplish and fake at that time. This scene was crazy. I cannot discount what El Duce said, and if he weren’t murdered, it was LAPD was putting heat bc SPD were trying not to even interview the guy. Even if he was a toad, he wasn’t lying. It’s in the police reports. Way bigger deal than people realize. SPD wanted to bury and move on. They were corrupt af. Look it up, especially Cameron. He took bribes. Also, how can a person listen to those Rosemary Carrol tapes and discount what she said, and the things she found in CL backpack. Why is SHE going to lie? She had everything to lose if anyone knew what she said to Grant, but she still DID IT, WHY? Because she knew Courtney and her schemes, and she found a lot of it was found in that fking back-pack, or she would NOT have spoken about it with Grant. CL even called the police, pretended to be Wendy, Kurt’s mom and said: “KC is missing. He has “fled” rehab. He is suicidal. He has a shotgun. Blah” Which was promptly picked up by all TV and PAPER media “somehow”. Being as stupid and dramatic as possible to the press, yet Kurt left her a message telling her where he was going and where he could be reached. Openly flying into Seatac and signing autographs. He wasn’t “missing” if he wasn’t hiding. ALLLLL: Gossip. In other words. Perpetuated by CL who promptly gets herself arrested for bs reasons (which was found in a *to do note to herself in the back pack>>*get arrested*. And then she hires Grant. Why does she want to get arrested?? Because as I remember her blabbing to the news at the time, they had a “suicide pact”. *eye roll*. She also faked an overdose on the day she thinks Grant is going to find Kurt’s body. This is all a matter of public police record btw. If anyone cared to do actual research. But Grant and Carlson don’t find the body. So she demands she be released, changes the story. Calls Veca Electric THE NEXT DAY and tells them specifically to install security lights exactly where they can find Kurt’s body. A “shitty little room that no one uses” according to Carlson. RC ALSO overheard CL tell Carlson to check there when he went with Grant. Only, they didn’t. That is twice she told people exactly where to look. Grant was an alibi. She kept him away from Lake and had him surveil tons of bs until she was ready for him to find the: incredibly fake setup. Not to mention the missing credit card which continues to try to charge until the person hears publicly that Kurt has died, and how arranged it looked to the electrician even his hair looked combed. An odd thing I noticed is Carlson when they first enter the Lake house w/ Grant he records it, the VERY first words are “Wow. I have never seen the house this clean before.” Yeahhhh. It’s everywhere on record how notoriously messy Kurt is and how messy their house always is. How clean was it to the point that it’s the first think that Carlson exclaims upon entry, when he’s supposed to be looking for his possibly dead friend? Hmm. Why was it so clean? It is possible they had to clean the house to cover up a crime scene and then possibly moved Kurt’s body to a more remote location and stage the suicide and possibly they there is relatively very little blood, staged right down to a neat last four lines are completely different handwriting at the bottom? The last four lines that look exactly like the practise handwriting sheet Rosemary found in CL backpack, as if she were practicing “someone else’s” handwriting? So she can add it to one of Kurt’s notoriously ruthless journal entries because he wanted to quit Nirvana (CL also talks about this on the tapes, and she speaks about it again after the legal battles involving Nirvana box set royalties.) Practice handwriting= fake last four lines of the note so fake even a novice can see the different writing. Which are the only lines that make it sound like a suicide note at all.

    No one understands the tremendous shift in social norms when the “alternative” came out of the “underground” unless you lived it. The police? YEAH. They hated punks. They took one look, said, well there he goes, and simply did NOT investigate. Why would they? A load of crap was coming down on them and their messy personal life was all over the media. Plus she called them so many times to that property. Can you say set up months in motion? Even the Kurt locking himself in the bathroom to get away from her story is distorted. Look up what actually happened in the recent years interview with the officer that responded that night! Kurt wasn’t even in the house. She’s on the balcony screaming like a harpy. Jesus. The lies are what keep this from ever being brought to light. And normies aren’t ever going to understand how weird and all too true this is. It is so obvious that she conspired and probably all the way up to Danny Goldberg. “Nothing makes more money than a dead rock star” to quote CL herself. Why do you think Rosemary hung up on Grant as soon as she realized she was being recorded never to speak about it in public again?? It’s huge ground for being sued by her *conflicting interests* ALSO client: CL. To go on public record speaking about the actual strong possibility that she thinks CL is behind it?! But there is Courtney, the most litigious person on the planet, she doesn’t sue. She has never gone against anyone who finger her guilt because it’s true. Going to court would inevitably release the truth.

    Tolerance: Do you people even understand what “triple lethal” means? No one in the entire world has been able to accomplish the superheroinman feat of shooting themselves in the mouth after injecting a triple lethal overdose. Injection in instant. Everyone else dies with the needle still in the vein, but no, not Cobain, right? A small in stature man with physical difficulties and issues. He was just in the hospital in Rome (just look up the sht surrounding that. She tried to kill him the first time right there. Before she showed up, Kurt had already called Rosemary and asked her to draft up those divorce papers. CL is on taped recordings talking about it. Within hours of her arrival, Kurt is on his deathbed. HELLO) No opiates were in his system, and every single person surrounding him on that tour talks about him as clean with a bottle of Evian water. But no, Charles Cross and CL sponsored people have him roaming around Europe looking for a fix. She wasn’t even there! LOL. She was cheating on him. Kurt was calling Cali and Carlson asking about it. She didn’t even join him on tour for their anniversary or Francis’ bday. But yes, I am SURE his tolerance would be ENORMOUS enough after two-weeks of returning from Rome to withstand a Triple Lethal overdose for long enough to roll up his sleeves, inject himself, put his “gear” away, then shoot himself in the mouth. I believe if that were possible, there would be similar cases. There aren’t. The only similar case they have ever found had about 1/3 of the amount of that was in Kurt’s blood. Kurt Cobain has somehow remained the only person in the entire world who has managed to do this superhuman impossibility. Hmmm how can that be? Hmmmm… *whispers* is it because it isn’t possible, and: someone else was theerrrrre??? In other words, tolerance by definition means: there is a CEILING at which a person can reach, before they GO OVER it, and take too much. I think his tolerance was hit in the first third of the amount of the um>>> lethal overdose. But whoever was with him gave him sooooo MUCH, he had roughly 75 times the amount in his blood as a “regular” average user takes to get high via injection.

  • Oriel Collins

    You know nothing about this scene or punk in general if you are going to take the lyrics, have you ever read ANY lyrics from punker? LOL. And using the I’m going kill myself. Holy crap, most of you wouldn’t have survived this era if you take this stuff so seriously. We ALL talked like this. We did it just like some punks wear swastikas in the 70s, it was stupid, and doesn’t mean anything other than shock value. It’s a weird funny doom and gloom fake horror sense of biting sarcastic humor. Please: don’t even LISTEN to a band like oh, I don’t know, FEAR, for example, I don’t want anyone to cry at the politically incorrectness. This is extremely dim to think this style meant a person had suicidal tendencies. Oh, the irony, THAT’S even the NAME of a punk band. LMAO. THATS BECAUSE WE ALL DID IT. The story of the girl and the train tracks, he told a ton of crazy stories, actually read what his actual friend King Buzzo and Dale Crover from the Melvins has to say about Montage of SCHLOCK. It’s fantasy, and they did a great job with the early animated montage, but the story was complete fking BS.

  • Oriel Collins

    Tolerance: Tolerance by definition means: there is a CEILING at which a person can reach, before they GO OVER it, and take too much and they die. It doesn’t mean you develop an immunity and can withstand any dose imaginable. Do you not understand what “triple lethal” means? No one in the entire world has been able to accomplish the superheroinman feat of shooting themselves in the mouth after injecting a triple lethal overdose. Injection via massive overdose=death is instant. Everyone else dies with the needle still in the vein, but no, not Cobain, right? A man, small in stature with physical ailments. He was just in the hospital in Rome (just look up the sht surrounding that. Before CL showed up, Kurt had already called Rosemary Carroll, and asked her to draft up those divorce papers. CL is on taped recordings talking about it. Within hours of her arrival in Rome, Kurt is on his deathbed. HELLOooo)

    NO OPIATES WERE FOUND in his system at that hospital stay, and every single person surrounding him on that tour talks about him as completely clean with a bottle of Evian water. (But no, Charles Cross and CL sponsored people have him roaming around Europe looking for a fix. She wasn’t even there! LOL. She was cheating on him. Kurt was calling Cali and Carlson asking about it. She didn’t even join him on tour for their anniversary or Francis’ bday. All she does is lie. Charles Cross books may as well say: written by Courtney Love. Completely invalid source material, but do continue spreading lies.) But anyway, yeeesss, I am SURE his tolerance would be ENORMOUS after only 2-3-weeks of returning from Rome to withstand a Triple Lethal overdose for long enough to roll up his sleeves, inject himself, roll back down his sleeves, put his “gear” away, then pick up the shotgun and shoot himself in the mouth. I believe if that were possible, there would be similar cases. There aren’t. The only similar case they have ever found had about 1/3 of the amount of that was in Kurt’s blood. ONE. THIRD. YET: Kurt Cobain has somehow remained the only person in the entire world who has managed to do this superhuman impossibility. Hmmm how can that be? *whispers* because: maaaybe someone else was therrre…? Yeah, I think he was dead after the first >> LETHAL OVERDOSE. So the second and the third one, I’m sure he was well above his tolerance, there Sparky. To put it in perspective, that’s over 75 to 80x the “normal” dose for the average, in the vein junkie to catch a “normal” high.
    The shotgun overkill= ??? WHY is that there. Is it because possible murder victims mean an investigation in King County while, suicide means NO investigation, give back everything to the professional widow and she promptly destroys everything they release to her? Plus, if you research the coma bs after CL arrived in Rome? It stinks. I think she tried it there first, but he woke back up. She waited HOURS to call the ambulance, and gives so many different accounts, it’s clear she’s lying. But the gun: makes sure he doesn’t wake up again. It NEVER made a single shred of sense for him to shoot himself on TOP of a “purposeful overdose”. Thankfully he was dead before the gun blast.

  • Oriel Collins

    An odd thing I noticed is Carlson when they first enter the Lake house w/ Grant he records it, the VERY first words are “Wow. I have never seen the house this clean before.” Yeahhhh. It’s everywhere on record how notoriously messy Kurt is and how messy their house always is. How clean was it to the point that it’s the first think that Carlson exclaims upon entry, when he’s supposed to be looking for his possibly dead friend? Hmm. Why was it so clean? It is possible they had to clean the house to cover up a crime scene and then possibly moved Kurt’s body to a more remote location and stage the suicide and possibly they there is relatively very little blood, staged right down to a neat last four lines are completely different handwriting at the bottom? The last four lines that look exactly like the practice handwriting sheet Rosemary found in CL backpack, as if she were practicing “someone else’s” handwriting? So she can add it to one of Kurt’s notoriously ruthless journal entries because he wanted to quit Nirvana (CL also talks about this on the tapes, and she speaks about it again after the legal battles involving Nirvana box set royalties.) Practice handwriting= fake last four lines of the note, so fake even a novice can see the different writing. Which are the only lines that make it sound like a suicide note.

    No one understands the tremendous shift in social norms when the “alternative” came out of the “underground” unless you lived it. The police? YEAH. They hated punks. They took one look, said, well there he goes, and simply did NOT investigate. Why would they? A load of crap was coming down on them and their messy personal life was all over the media. Plus she called them so many times to that property. Can you say set up months in motion? Even the Kurt locking himself in the bathroom to get away from her story is distorted. Look up what actually happened in the recent years interview with the officer that responded that night! Kurt wasn’t even in the house. She’s on the balcony screaming like a harpy. Jesus. The lies are what keep this from ever being brought to light. And normies aren’t ever going to understand how weird and all too true this is. It is so obvious that she conspired and probably all the way up to Danny Goldberg. “Nothing makes more money than a dead rock star” to quote CL herself. Why do you think Rosemary hung up on Grant as soon as she realized she was being recorded never to speak about it in public again?? It’s huge ground for being sued by her *conflicting interests* ALSO client: CL. To go on public record speaking about the actual strong possibility that she thinks CL is behind it?! But there is Courtney, the most litigious person on the planet, she doesn’t sue. She has never gone against anyone who finger her guilt because it’s true. Going to court would inevitably release the truth.

  • Oriel Collins

    The suicide running in his family is a myth. One uncle shot himself in the foot in a bar, the other one fell down a flight of stairs. Anything quoting Charles Cross is straight up bullshit practically written by CL so. It’s completely irrelevant source material. He wasn’t suicidal until he was no longer around to say otherwise. His mother & CL said so? *SCOFF* Get a fking grip. His mother is a liar with millions of dollars right about now. They just released a FKING T-Mobile commercial. It makes me sick. And they’re ALLLL $$$ from the blood of a dead man whose life was stolen. A man who wanted to live. But most of you are so brainwashed by his “image”. Realize that a LOT of people made and continue to make MILLIONS in revenue to perpetuate this “death of a rockstar”. Most of you in denial of this are basic younger gen, who are mostly media lemmings. CL had a direct line to the AP and uses gossip positive or negative for or against people her entire career, but ya’ll just lap it up it’s ludicrous. Do some research on how his actual friends felt about it. The circumstantial evidence is stacked highly toward murder, it always has been, it just happened to be smothered in media coverage saying the most derogatory outlandish statements. Kurt hated most of the media, and they always returned the favor.
    The means, motive, method are all there.

    The problem is not many of you understand what it was like before the internet and digital media. And you don’t really understand the culture before this broke. The before and after of Nevermind. This would have been incredibly easy to accomplish and fake at that time. This scene was crazy. I cannot discount what El Duce said, and if he weren’t murdered, it was LAPD was putting heat bc SPD were trying not to even interview the guy. Even if he was a toad, he wasn’t lying. It’s in the police reports. Way bigger deal than people realize. SPD wanted to bury and move on. They were corrupt af. Look it up, especially Cameron. He took bribes. Also, how can a person listen to those Rosemary Carrol tapes and discount what she said, and the things she found in CL backpack. Why is SHE going to lie? She had everything to lose if anyone knew what she said to Grant, but she still DID IT, WHY? Because she knew Courtney and her schemes, and she found a lot of it was found in that fking back-pack, or she would NOT have spoken about it with Grant. CL even called the police, pretended to be Wendy, Kurt’s mom and said: “KC is missing. He has “fled” rehab. He is suicidal. He has a shotgun. Blah” Which was promptly picked up by all TV and PAPER media “somehow”. Being as stupid and dramatic as possible to the press, yet Kurt left her a message telling her where he was going and where he could be reached. Openly flying into Seatac and signing autographs. How is that “missing”?. ALLLLL: Gossip. In other words. Perpetuated by CL who promptly gets herself arrested for bs reasons (which was found in a *to do note to herself in the back pack>>*get arrested*). And then she hires Grant. Why does she want to get arrested?? Because as I remember her blabbing to the news at the time, they had a “suicide pact”. *eye roll*. She also faked an overdose on the day she thinks Grant is going to find Kurt’s body. This is all a matter of public police record btw. If anyone cared to do actual research. But Grant and Carlson don’t find the body. So she demands she be released, changes the story. Calls Veca Electric THE NEXT DAY and tells them specifically to install security lights exactly where they can find Kurt’s body. A “shitty little room that no one uses” according to Carlson. RC ALSO overheard CL tell Carlson to check there when he went with Grant. Only, they didn’t. That is twice she told people exactly where to look. Grant was an alibi. She kept him away from Lake and had him surveil tons of bs until she was ready for him to find the: incredibly fake setup. Not to mention the missing credit card which continues to try to charge until the person hears publicly that Kurt has died, and how arranged it looked to the electrician even his hair looked combed.

  • Vixen Rose

    first of all he wasn’t on heroin . He was on morphine its highly impossible to be laying on your stomach ,and asleep to shoot yourself with a shotgun .

  • elixxrx66

    Excuse me Brett but I couldn’t but notice you said the following, “It’s unfortunate that many people who only knew Kurt through his music
    and video clips, many of whom were not even born when he died”. when I look at your picture at the end of the article I would say you are exactly who you are complaining about. how old are you? were you even around during that period of time? You really haven’t a clue. You’ll excuse me if I take the word of a man who was a homicide investigator for 15 years with the LA county sheriff who has a stellar record and went on to become the P.I. Courtney Love hired over you and your investigative skills.