Rock Hall of Fame Disrespects Chris Cornell, Scott Weiland & Layne Staley

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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announced their nominees for their 2018 class yesterday, and it included two first time nominee 90’s bands that have stood the test of time in Rage Against The Machine and Radiohead. Soundgarden stood out as one of the biggest snubs. The band have been eligible for a few years now, and they were the first Seattle band to sign to a major label, yet they haven’t even been nominated. With Chris Cornell’s passing this year, it seemed like a given that they would be nominated and inducted, especially with Cornell’s involvement with the Rock Hall in the past, inducting Heart and performing at the ceremony in 2013.

Chris Cornell was such an important artist, he fronted three bands that will be listened to until the end of time in Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, and Audioslave. There aren’t many singers in the last 30 years with that kind of reputation. Chris’ death has been painful for everyone, it has divided his family, and absolutely crushed his fans and bandmates. Seeing Soundgarden get in the Rock Hall could have been a great opportunity to celebrate Chris’ career and give fans, friends, and family an opportunity to get together and heal. We need some good news right now as we try to recover from such a shocking and painful loss.

While Stone Temple Pilots had a very different career from Soundgarden, they are another band that were snubbed, and deserved at least a nomination in their first year of eligibility. Stone Temple Pilots and their fans have dealt with trials and tribulations throughout the band’s entire career. When Core came out, STP were derided as Pearl Jam and Grunge ripoffs, despite several of Core‘s key tracks being written before Pearl Jam ever formed. To further rub it in, after Pearl Jam’s induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame earlier this year, the Rock Hall put a plaque in Pearl Jam’s museum section stating that they influenced STP.

Scott Weiland’s death just two years ago makes seeing STP get into the Rock Hall something that would mean even more. Due to Weiland’s downward spiral with addiction in his final years destroying his career and his relationships with many in the music industry, his career was not really celebrated when he died as much as other musicians who have passed away in the last couple of years. If Weiland had died five years prior when still fronting STP, he would have received more tributes, but sadly the industry is very cold and they saw less commercial opportunities since his career was at a low point when he passed. The Hall of Fame would be a great chance to remember he and STP’s accomplishments and give them the respect they have so long deserved.

Alice In Chains have been eligible for a couple of years now, and while many think Nirvana were the first Seattle Grunge band to have success on MTV and radio, Alice In Chains released Facelift in 1990, and “Man In The Box” was really the first Grunge radio hit before Nirvana exploded. Layne Staley discussed how much winning a Grammy award would mean to him in interviews in the 1990’s, saying it would make him proud to go on stage and to be able to accept it. Alice In Chains have been nominated for several Grammys, but unfortunately have never won. Layne Staley even made his final public appearance at the 1997 Grammys, and a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction for Alice In Chains could give Layne some posthumous vindication. Alice In Chains were one of the most influential bands of the 90’s, there’s even a famous band with many radio hits named after one of their songs. They should undoubtably be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

There are many other snubs as well like The Smashing Pumpkins, Tool, Jane’s Addiction, and Nine Inch Nails, but their members are all still alive. With Chris, Scott, and Layne dead, it makes something like a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction mean that much more, since their legacies are now all we have left of them. It’s time for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to show them the respect they deserve.

  • Sarah Langston Sebring

    You’re wrong about Soundgarden being the first Seattle band signed. Mother Love Bone was the first and Andrew Wood is the Godfather of Grunge.

    • nomad

      According to wikipedia and everything else I’ve read, Soundgarden was the first “grunge” Seattle band signed to a major label deal (with A&M). Mother Love Bone signed with Polygram in Nov 1988. It’s splitting hairs, really. It all happened in a short span of time.

    • John Russelman

      MLB was not GRUNGE, APPLE and ULTRA-MEGA OK were LA sound, LA produced, not Seattle.

      • AZORBST

        Please stop using the term “grunge”. It’s horrible word that describes what grows in your shower if you don’t clean it often enough, it has nothing to do with the beautiful sounds that came out of Seattle. I digress…… Soundgarden was the first prominent band in Seattle to sign with a major label. MLB came later after Green River split up. But anyways, it’s ridiculous that Soundgarden wasn’t inducted this year. A complete joke.

        • Eleanor

          I agree! Ridiculous and a joke!

        • Eddie Yarler

          Those bands are irrefutably Grunge, and for all the bitching they did “we don’t have a sound, we’re not a genre” they immediately reclaimed the title as soon as other Alternative bands outside of their little clique started popping up. They are and always will be Grunge.

          • AZORBST

            I don’t recall any Seattle bands actually requesting to be called “grunge”. Regardless, I didn’t label them with that term in 1992 and I’m sure as hell not starting in 2017. I don’t agree with how Brett runs this site with click bait but at least he had enough sense to ditch the word “grunge” from the main title of the site. I commend him for that move.

          • Eddie Yarler

            Check out any interview by Soundgarden in this decade. Its all they talk about is how they were Grunge and did it before anyone despite supposedly “hating that word” at their peak. I like all of them don’t get me wrong, but the Seattle bands just remind me of hipsters. They never felt they had a label til bands like Stone Temple Pilots, Smashing Pumpkins and Bush started “aping their sound”. All of a sudden they belong to a movement when a non-Seattle band finds success.

          • LaVonne Demers

            None of them liked the term grunge bc they all sound different from each other. Technically the term was made up by a secretary as a joke. Then it stuck. I don’t see. Grunge as a music I see it as a time period.

    • simon boyland

      Sarah is correct on this One. MLB were the first “grunge” band to be signed, and as Sarah also correctly states that Andy is known as the “godfather of grunge”. Had Andy not died so tragically when he did then MLB would have gone on to become One of the biggest grunge bands of the time, let’s not forget that Temple Of The Dog was a tribute to Andy.

      • LaVonne Demers

        MLB was 1st to be signed but Mudhoney was the 1st they called grunge

  • Harley Sparx

    Honestly, the hall of fame is a joke. There are bands in there that are just random as hell and baffling in beating out more deserving veteran bands. This year there nominating Rage Against the Machine? Now, I am a fan but they don’t even have a real catalogue of albums or made any real noticeable impact impact in music. Also, Radiohead? Really?

    I really don’t understand how they go about nominating musicians but I’ve never taken them seriously anyway. They’ll probably nominate One Direction or Kanye West next year…or Nickelback.

    • CB

      If you don’t think Radiohead is important and influential in rock music then stop talking. This is more of an issue with the Rock Hall limiting the number of inductions. If they aired multiple ceremonies over a few days it would work. They’re playing catch-up but also trying to not fall behind. But to be honest I don’t know why you need some bullshit ceremony to validate your music taste. Who cares what a bunch of people in a committee think? Just listen to your favorite artists. That’s all THEY want from you. Take a hint from the Sex Pistols.

      • Harley Sparx

        Yeah, I never said Radiohead wasn’t influential but I don’t feel that they are on the same level as some other bands that were nominated. I like Radiohead, just don’t listen to them as much as I use to.

    • makingconnections

      Radiohead has such a solid fan base…and their song, “Creep” is unforgettable.

      • Corndog

        As i understand it, i think they actually hate that song and didn’t play it live for years. Maybe someone else could confirm that? I have always quite liked it myself, but they have other songs that are so much better. Pretty much anything from OK Computer is better IMO. Such an amazing album.

        • halcyon

          Yes, they didn’t for a couple of years but they now occasionally include Creep in their setlist.

          • Corndog

            Thanks:)

    • Kay B

      Radiohead is a great band with many great songs. Just because Creep is really the only song playing on the radio doesn’t mean they don’t have other great songs. I could listen to The Bends forever plus a day. And they probably pick these bands like bingo balls.

      • makingconnections

        Some of them are almost “one -hit wonders” it seems and others make such a strong impact. I really wish that they’d stick to rock performers being honoured.
        Radiohead’s fans are so unique and would probably think it shallow of me to mention just “Creep”. They seem like sort of an intellectual band to me….am I right on that?

        • Corndog

          If by intellectual you mean up their own arses, then yep, they sure are:)

          • makingconnections

            Oh, I’ve just been reading about their insistence on playing in Tel Aviv despite much protest. They didn’t seem exactly humble in their response.

          • Corndog

            No humble is not a word that i would use to describe them. They are very good at what they do, but they know it, if you know what i mean?

          • makingconnections

            I’ve got the picture…I understand that their fans are completely dedicated so they must have some sort of artistry that really appeals to some.

          • Corndog

            I used to be really into them when i was younger, but i started to lose interest when they strayed away from their rock roots. I still think that the Bends and in particular OK Computer are absolutely amazing albums, but i really can’t be doing with all that electronic stuff they started putting out after that. Just not my cup of tea, although i think that a lot of people actually prefer their later output over their earlier rock orientated stuff.

          • Kay B

            Their videos are great. I really like high and dry and just.

          • Corndog

            Yes, and the weird little animated one for Paranoid Android:)

          • dakotablue

            I also quite like the weird little b&w one for Lotus Flower (great tune, too).

          • Kay B

            Yea thats a mind trip.

          • Stu Johnson

            I agree with Roger Waters on that issue, but it doesn’t mean I’m not a fan of Radiohead. I’m sure most of you will agree that the Bends was some kind peak for them. But what I find most interesting is Thom Yorke’s transformation from cute artsy English muppet to the grisled “Aqualung-like” creature he is now…😉

          • Stu Johnson

            But I have great respect for all the bands mentioned, don’t care who did what first, think the rrhof process is a little weird, but am like a little kid when I walk through the place, and most of all, never see it as a competition.

          • makingconnections

            I guess it really isn’t a competition because there are so many nominated and that’s an acknowledgment in itself…they couldn’t possible honour everyone that deserved it at their once a year celebration.

          • halcyon

            I like Radiohead, but I guess I must upvote your comment 🙂

          • Corndog

            I like them too. First 3 albums mostly, and the occasional post OK Computer song that harkens back to their earlier work. Not a fan of the electronica though. OK Computer is a brilliant album!

            I just wish that they would get back to their rock roots.

      • Cathy

        But honestly they weren’t as good as SG.

        • Corndog

          It’s all a matter of personal taste. Personally, i think that Radiohead are a much better band that Soundgarden. First 3 albums at least. I went off them when they started all that wanky electronic crap.

          I think it is also fair to say that they would be much more well known world wide and had more of an influence than SG ever did; assuming that such things are considered in the criteria for entry. I’m honestly not sure if it is though.

          • Ashraf Mohamed

            Radiohead are not a better band than Soundgarden.who the hell listens to Radiohead now ever since they went crazy with all that electronic garbage albums.the last truly good rock album from them was The Bends which btw is a vastly inferior album to the brilliant masterpiece Superunknown from Soundgarden.

          • Corndog

            Again, it’s all subjective. I don’t like Superunknown personally, and as far as Radiohead are concerned I’d say OK Computer was much better than The Bends. I agree that the electronic stuff that came afterwards is shit though.

          • Kay B

            It is subjective. I’d rather staple my head to the floor than listen to Smashing Pumpkins.

          • Eleanor

            Lol!!!

          • Corndog

            I always liked the Pumpkins, but I can totally see how Billy Corgan could have that affect on someone:)

          • Olga Stewart

            KayB, we gotta keep the stapler away from you then. :).

      • Corndog

        OK Computer is one of the best albums ever written IMO.

      • Ashraf Mohamed

        Radiohead are a great band with too many rubbish songs and few good songs.OK Computer was not a rock album.after the Bends,Radiohead forgot how to do rock songs and went overboard with their weird n bizarre musical evolution

      • Harley Sparx

        I like Radiohead, but I just don’t see it I guess. Bingo balls is probably an accurate way of selecting bands to induct. I just don’t understand how some very phenomenal bands have been nominated multiple times, but never get inducted. I really thought Judas Priest had been in the Hall of Fame, BUT I guess not. I don’t think most of these bands even care about getting in because they know how it works. It’s a real slap in the face to have Cornell present an inductee, yet Soundgarden has never gotten in despite numerous nominations. Alice in Chains is another one that should have been in. I also love STP.

        They probably go by their own favorite musicians instead of looking at track records and what really matters.

        • AZORBST

          How anyone could think Radiohead is not deserving of the RRHOF is beyond me. The Bends-OK Computer-Kid A is one of the greatest runs in the history of rock. In Rainbows is phenomenal. They are still vital today. They could record The Bends over and over if they wanted to pad their bank accounts but they are always pushing for new sonic territory. They are a first ballot lock. I rank them as the 4th best band of all time after The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Nirvana.

          • Harley Sparx

            …and that’s your opinion. I most definitely don’t agree with 2 out of 4 bands you consider “best of all time” but that’s the joy of opinions: I don’t have to accept them.

            Jeez, people. Not everyone is a huge Radiohead fan so get over it. I never said they were bad, but they’re not the best IN MY OPINION.

    • Eleanor

      Well said! Agreed!

  • makingconnections

    These Seattle bands will be honoured eventually, but it doesn’t really matter. None of their fans really care about it one way or the other.

    One plus of Soundgarden not being inducted is that it’s one less opportunity for V. Cornell to put herself in the spotlight.

    • Cathy

      Yep!

      • makingconnections

        Cathy, this apprehension about the “circus” aspect of V. and her mother and the impact their behaviour is having on Chris Cornell’s memory is displaying itself here. Think of if–we’d rather not have Chris honoured at this time because of fear of the hijacking of the event and honouring by his widow. That is a sad state of affairs and the reason that we have been railing against she, her mother and LR all these months…..because they are tampering with the image we have of Chris and putting themselves ahead of him with all their self obsession. They are trying to ride on his coattails and it would be so good if they’d simply back off.

    • Corndog

      Exactly. No one cares, because Pearl Jam are already in;)

      I’m joking!! Relax:)

      • makingconnections

        Haha…can’t trick me two nights in a row!

        • Corndog

          Sorry:)

          • makingconnections

            Don’t be silly….All I had to do was look at your Icon…some detective!

          • Corndog

            What? I don’t know how that got there! I don’t even like Pearl Jam:)

          • makingconnections

            My British mother-in-law would say you’re being “rascally”.

          • Corndog

            My Irish mom would say I’m being a little shit:)

          • makingconnections

            “Shit for Brains” has been said around this house a few times.

          • Corndog

            Yeah I’ve heard that one myself a few times too:)

          • Kay B

            My Irish mom slapped me in the face and called me a little shit in High School in front of my friends. I deserved it though.

          • makingconnections

            You did not deserve it….not a slap in the face.

          • Corndog

            Yikes. May I ask what you did to deserve it?

          • Kay B

            I called her a bitch and asked why did dad have to marry you? I immediately regretted it and never spoke like that again.

          • Corndog

            Well, all things considered i guess i can see why she was miffed:)

          • Olga Stewart

            Well, I will use the word my Irish born Mom would have used for these Rock and Roll Hall of Fame snubs: tommyrot

            *BG*

          • Corndog

            I’m not familiar with that word. What does it mean?

          • Olga Stewart

            Crap, nonsense, idiocy.

            That sort of thing.

          • Olga Stewart
          • Olga Stewart

            It means crap, nonsense, idiocy.

            That sort of thing.

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tommyrot

          • Olga Stewart

            I’m sorry about the multiple reply to your question.

            But my first reply didn’t seem to be showing in Disqus notifications dashboard.

          • Corndog

            No worries, thanks for the info:)

          • Olga Stewart

            You’re welcome. :).

    • Ashraf Mohamed

      Agree with you abt Vicky Cornell.she and her greek family are a vain and sinister bunch.

      • makingconnections

        I look forward to the day when Chris Cornell the artist’s image is not one that is presented to us by that family. A human being should be allowed to stand alone in the memory that his fans have of him. He and his musical gifts to us are what matter. Their lives with him they should keep private and not try to offer up to the public because they want to be celebrities. It would seem that way anyway.

        • Diana

          I hate how everyone now is immediately associating him with that cunt MIL and the rest of her tragic family.

  • Eleanor

    With all due respect to Rage against the Machine…how the hell do they induct them over Soundgarden???? What a slap in the face…Sorry, I think it DOES matter. If Pearl Jam was inducted, next in line should be Soundgarden…ESPECIALLY with the passing of Chris..Makes no sense..

    • Diana

      PJ were inducted in their first year of eligibility. I like them but with AIC and SG still out….kinda sucks.

  • densuec

    You clearly must be a member of Generation Y and need some musical education. Other than disco, grunge is easily one of the most forgettable eras in music history. I’ll grant you some of the bright spots in Soundgarden and AIC, but STP? Come on, where’s the catalog and body of work? I suppose you’d like Candlebox, Dishwalla, Sponge, and Marcy Playground in there too. Now step aside and let many more worthy and over due artists get in there like Depeche Mode, Moody Blues, The Cars, and another huge snub like The Cure.

    • Anonymous501

      STP had four pretty big and fantastic albums. Core, Purple, Tiny Music, and No. 4. They were huge in their era. They have enough songs to fill up a great hits album without filler, which is more than i can say about the other bands you mentioned.

    • Cathy

      I’m with you on STP but SG and AIC had far more songs and SG won a Grammy or two. Not sure about AIC. Moody Blues was before my time but they should be in as should The Cars. I’m really shocked by RATM.

      • dakotablue

        AIC was nominated for a Grammy several times for great songs inc. “Again” but never won.

    • Eddie Yarler

      Umm, you mean the four platinum records, all with modern rock staples? Stone Temple Pilots are phenomenal. And there is nothing wrong with any of those lesser known bands despite you making poor comparisons with commercially successful artists. Who’s next? Days of the New verses Led Zeppelin?

      “I don’t know about it therefore its not important” You sure you’re not a baby boomer?

      • Corndog

        I was born in the late 70’s. Does that mean i’m a baby boomer? Really not up to date with all these terms:)

        • Eddie Yarler

          No you’re Gen X in both attitude and date. Lol
          1946-1964 boomers
          1965-1980 Gen X
          1981-1999 millennials
          Post 2000 I have no.clue

          • Corndog

            How do you mean in attitude? Is that a good thing?

          • Eddie Yarler

            Absolutely. While there will always be variations, speaking generally Gen Xers are laid back amd don’t take things personally, which is reflective in their genres (Grunge). Boomers are usually entitled as are millennials. But millennials are much less talented. Lol I should know since I’m one.

          • Corndog

            Well in that case, thanks man:)

            Don’t sell yourself short. I’m sure you have many talents. If nothing else you’re a very pleasant and articulate fella!

          • nomad

            Until you reveal yourself to disagree with him politically, then he says pleasant things like this

            “but you’re clearly dumber than a bag of rocks so it doesn’t matter if
            truth stares you right in the face. People like you are fascinating. I
            can’t tell if you’re a complete moron or just in desperate denial.
            Either way, please don’t breed.”

          • Corndog

            Que?

          • Corndog

            I have a disqus email with a reply from you but when I clicked on it to take me to disqus to check my unread messages it wasn’t there. I presume you must have edited it, as I can’t see it in the deleted section?

            Assuming that’s the case, out of respect for you I won’t mention any names or specifics but I’d like to address a few points if that’s OK?

            I too have disagreed with that user, but we were able to work it out quite easily, with both of us apologising if we had been a dick, and that was despite the fact that we appeared to have diametrically opposed views on the subject we were discussing.

            My political views are much more in line with yours Nomad; we have very similar opinions on such things from what I can tell, but I think in the current climate the world finds itself in, especially online where every other word is trumptard this or snowflake that, that we all try to remember that we’re more than just our political views. We’re all just people trying to get by and deal with our own shit and I’d hope that there was no need for it to descend into petty name calling and arguments especially here where we’re coming together to share a love of music.

            All that being said, I absolutely agree that those comments made towards you that you mention towards the end of your post were unpleasant, unnecessary and absolutely not cool. No need to speak to you like that at all. I do think if you discussed it with the user though that they would be big enough to admit they’d gone too far, because as I mentioned I also disagreed politically with this user but we both came down from the ledge very quickly and calmer heads prevailed.

            I don’t know. Maybe I’m just getting naive in my old age but I do genuinely believe that we’re all capable of getting along even when our opinions diverge completely. Nothing wrong with a little diversity so long as we all respect one another, but you were absolutely not respected by the other user in the example you mentioned. There is no need for that.

          • Kay B

            Yuppies.

          • Olga Stewart

            Then I’m Gen X.

    • Kay B

      DM and Cure do deserve it. I do like my Sponge too not that it matters but hey.

  • Joe

    Alice in Chains should definitely be in the hall of fame, Stanley is a legend, his voice can never be replicated.

    • David Dms

      1000 percent right they should have already been just like we need a movie or documentary about Laynes life.

      • Amy

        There actually is a movie about him. Haven’t seen it not do I know what it’s called, but there definitely is one.

        • David Dms

          If you have a link or something that would be awesome cuz I’m a really big fan and have like all the stuff collected and I knew they were going to make a movie and they ended up scratching the ideal but if a some how I missed something and info would be highly appreciated.

          • Amy

            Oh man, I have not been keeping up to date with these things. I just found out the movie I was talking about is the one that got cancelled. I’m so sorry to bring your hopes up like that.

          • David Dms

            Lol it’s all good 👍

  • Raj

    They always get snubbed, Alice in Chains is a very underrated band and Layne a very underrated vocalist. AIC got lumped as being more ‘metal’ and STP got branded as PJ ripoffs but there are no similarities. A nomination is the least the Hall could do but they will all get in the HOF in due time.

    • Ashraf Mohamed

      Its true bro.AIC are more metal than anything else and Layne is nowhere as good as Cornell.

      • Shut up

        No one said that layne is better than cornell, they are not even comparable dude. Why would you even mention that

      • Diana

        I love both. My two favourite singers. Layne’s voice gives me goosebumps, it’s chilling and I absolutely love it.
        And yes it’s total bullshit for them to snub SG and AIC. Although not very surprising in AIC case; they’ve always being underrated.

        • Amy

          I remember watching an interview with AIC not long after Layne died and Jerry was talking about how he and the rest of the band were practically begged to attend this award show or something, I don’t exactly remember. He said they really didn’t want to go, but ended up going after being begged. So they’re at the show and a segment showing the celebrities who died in 2001 didn’t include Layne. Because of that, Jerry and the band had enough and left the damn show. I don’t blame them at all, I think it was very disrespectful to beg a band who has just lost one of their members to attend an award show that does not even commemorate him. That’s just disgusting to me.

      • Olga Stewart

        Actually, I do believe Layne was as good as Chris, vocally speaking.

      • simon boyland

        Layne is nowhere near as good as Chris Cornell ?, a comment from someone who clearly doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about. Their vocal ranges are identical(both being 3 notes, 4 octaves, Layne’s from Eb2-Bb5 and Chris’s D2-A5), so to say Layne is nowhere good as Chris is an utterly ridiculous thing to say. Let’s not forget that countless singers have modelled their sound on Layne, also look to the fact that Eddie Vedder sang “so sing just like him, fuckers” in 4/20/02.

  • Shaun Murphy

    Depeche Mode absolutely deserves to be inducted, they are the god fathers of synth music and have more than auf their dues. Killing yourself doesn’t automatically call for induction. Maybe next year.

  • Shaun Murphy

    Depeche Mode absolutely deserves to be inducted, they are the god fathers of synth music and have more than paid their dues. Killing yourself doesn’t automatically call for induction. Maybe next year.

    • makingconnections

      That’s a bloody rude thing to say Shaun Murphy.

      • Shaun Murphy

        It’s the truth and I really don’t care what your opinion is. Just because these artists are dead doesn’t make them good or worthy of induction into the hall of fame. Being the god father of grunge is nothing to be proud of.

        • makingconnections

          You’re a rude little boy.

        • Olga Stewart

          And being rude and insensitive are also things to not be proud of.

    • 40sRunner Girl

      I’m actually glad you said that, Shaun. I do agree that the HOF should be about the body of work, and band members being alive or passed on is completely irrelevant. I’m also worried about us celebrating drug overdoses and, especially, in the wake of Chris Cornell’s passing, suicides. What kind of ideas does this put out, culturally? Kill yourself and be celebrated? That’s not a healthy message.

      • makingconnections

        You should keep up with your information gathering….there’s been no celebrating suicide–actually quite the opposite. There’s been a real effort by fans of Chris Cornell to help to educate regarding depression and to lend a hand up to anyone struggling. No one celebrates drug overdoes…Good God! We are in the middle of a huge Fentanyl crisis in North America and people in all areas of trying to help addicts, along with ordinary citizens are scrambling to help them…and you say such a thing.

        • 40sRunner Girl

          I’m very much okay with my statements.

          • makingconnections

            Acceptance that it happens does not equal a celebration.

          • 40sRunner Girl

            I think this is becoming somewhat of an obsession for some folks, MC. Shaun and I were actually commenting on inclusion into the HOF, and how ppl who die should not be included because they died. Neither should their death expedite their inclusion. This article is silly. So are the others on HOF “snubs,” when they reference a musician’s demise in reference to inclusion.

          • makingconnections

            You refer to celebrating drug overdoses and suicides…the rest of your post is nothing to me; however that statement offends me greatly. I’ve been engaged in conversations here for months and there has been a great effort to be respectful to Chris Cornell and to address depression and addiction. Yes, your suggestion of a celebration is stupid.

          • 40sRunner Girl

            Whatever.

          • makingconnections

            Haha, I would assume you’re no longer worried about us celebrating drug overdoses and suicides then?

          • 40sRunner Girl

            I was never talking about “us,” MC. This article is about the HOF “snubbing” certain artists. It’s best to stay on topic with the article.

            Cheers.

          • makingconnections

            Read your first post…I’m done with you.

          • 40sRunner Girl

            Mc, you need to go make some more fresh tomato sauce and relax! Take a chill pill. First I can do no wrong. Now you’re mad at me. All because I have an opinion on music that differs from yours? What type of friend are you?

            I play guitar and bass. Specialing in all things Cornell (Audioslave and Soundgarden). Classically trained violinist since age 9. I have a musical education and opinion.

            Really don’t know who you are (at all), but I am a runner (now 50), with the initials MPK, born in 1967.

            I’m not sure why you’re insulting me and acting crazy.

            I’ve never been afraid to speak my mind to anyone. Not even friends going astray.

            CHEERS. Happy Sunday in Canada to you!

          • makingconnections

            MPK, you speak of worrying about our celebrating overdoses and suicides….I’ve never heard you speak so carelessly.

            No tomato sauce today…we’re celebrating Thanksgiving here in this backwater that I call home.

          • 40sRunner Girl

            You’re not the HOF, MC, are you? I don’t understand how you misread things that are stated and restated. The HOF should not accept bands due to the fact a musician died, nor expedite a band’s acceptance due to the death of a musician.

            I don’t get where you got lost. I also didn’t approve of your insulting that guy. Makes me think you might be a little too caught up in this Karayiannis thing. When her friends came out and addressed us, I signed off.

            Won’t bring him back, you know.

            I held back on speaking to you as you did me. I’m fond of you. But you don’t know who you’re insulting, MC. And trust me, no one is anonymous online.

            You’re private Disqus can also be traced. And if you ever commit slander, an attorney will connect your online accounts to your name.

            Cheers and be well. Enjoy your feast.

          • makingconnections

            This is a sad situation MPK, so I’ll stick to your last line and thank you for the good wishes. Peace be with you.

          • 40sRunner Girl

            I’m gonna say this, MC. I deleted the old Disqus act and started this one, which connects to one of my longtime acts, to live cleanly. If you don’t want the world to read your comments with your name attached, you shouldn’t make them. Deleted comments also never go away.

            I got what I needed from the previous situation (communication with the family).

            Also, if you can’t speak of your interest here with your family, then it’s an unhealthy obsession. And if you’re thinking you’re making anonymous comments online, then you’re 1) immoral, and 2) sadly mistaken.

            A real friend, and an IT expert, such as myself, will tell you these things, despite the fact you have disrespected me yesterday and today.

            Lastly, I blocked you. I’m sorry to say… I don’t know you, but you’re either kinda nuts, or you’re acting kinda nuts. You might want to decide which.

    • Kay B

      Is that you or Norman Bates?

  • Mike

    Maybe they want to have Rage Against the Machine so they can do some sort of big stupid anti-Trump thing.

  • RICHIE MAMA

    What about. Thin Lizzy. They have had a huge influence on other rock bands. James Hetfield wants them inducted.

  • Christopher Zeitz

    T O O L

  • LaVonne Demers

    The Hall of Fame has a bunch of stuffy older people who does the choosing. I wish so hard every year for AIC (Layne) to be inducted. But I’ve come to realize that the only Seattle bands that ever get recognition is Nirvana and Pearl Jam. AIC is always left behind I think bc of their collective drug issues in their career and the fact that they dropped out of sight at the peak of their fame. They didn’t stay around consistently like Pearl Jam has. And even though they now have been touring again they haven’t reached the same place they did in the past with Layne. It’s so sad I think they are invisible to the HOF. Sound garden may have a chance bc of Chris’s fame.
    I’ll keep wishing though… Layne needs to be honored. He was so talented and even though I like Nirvana too.. Layne can sing circles around Kurt.

    • Diana

      I love all of the “big 4” but just like you, AIC is my favourite. I keep polluting the comment section with how great Layne’s voice is lol
      It’s a shame that they are not getting recognised. There isn’t an AIC album that I don’t like.

      • dakotablue

        Deserved praise is not pollution!

  • Anonymous501

    The HHROF seems to induct the really big bands first. PJ and Nirvana were the bands of epic proportions of that era. Soundgarden were amazing but they weren’t at those levels of craziness. HHROF usually takes a while to induct those kinds of bands. The ones that were big but weren’t megabig.

    I also don’t think it matters when Soundgarden got signed. Their most well known and influential albums didn’t start until Badmotorfinger (in ’91?).

  • Cathy

    Rage Against the Machine over SG and AIC. What gives?

    • makingconnections

      I’m so pleased that we won’t witness the K family circus….it’s going to take some time to get back to normalcy and hearing Chris Cornell’s music without thinking of the pain he may have been in. . . at least that’s the way it is for me.

      • Cathy

        Maybe that’s why SG wasn’t included, they didn’t want a circus.

        • makingconnections

          I don’t know if the organizers have that sort of insight, but it would be a really awkward situation I think.

        • nomad

          I don’t think the organizers have that kind of foresight. In fact, I think they’d welcome some kind of trashy mess at their ceremony to get more press and ratings for it.

    • swcheetah

      Why is this site closing comments on only articles involving Cornell’s personal life? Is there a new owner here? It looks like the site was renewed after 7 years back in May. I thought it was a new site.

      • Corndog

        Comments on those articles are being closed because folks were being downright vile to one another on previous similar articles. The site is still owned and run by Brett Buchanan. Same site.

        • swcheetah

          Why not just remove the objectionable comments instead of stifling any discussion?

          • Corndog

            You’d need to ask Brett that. Not my decision i’m afraid.

  • JewbixCube

    I love the Seattle grunge bands just as much as anybody and I’m an enormous Alice in Chains fan, but if bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden haven’t even been inducted into the Hall of Fame yet, what chance does STP have?

    • makingconnections

      For me it’s not so much about Stone Temple Pilots, it’s about that band with Scott Weiland as their singer….it was the peak of the careers of all of them and Scott Weiland it turns out has staying power, even since his sad demise. It doesn’t seem to take away from the huge appeal I believe he will always have as a singer and performer….the best.

      • Kay B
        • makingconnections

          Thank you Kay!

          I’ve seen these before but not back-to-back and I found the performances stunning and awesome and so cool. In the last song, Atlanta, Scott’s singing with the stringed instruments is so beautiful…a fine way to end Thanksgiving Day at our house. He is so restrained almost in the way he sings, he has so much control over his singing somehow. I will always always love to watch Scott Weiland perform and then there’s the dancing around!

        • makingconnections

          I’ve seen these before, but seeing them together this weekend seemed like a gift. What a brilliant singer and performer he was. Thank you so much.

  • Tyrone Blackman

    The HOF has been a complete joke for a while now. I visited there many years ago, but won’t return because of how they treat musicians and their families.

    • Olga Stewart

      I am sorry to hear about that in regards to the treatment of both the musicians and their families.

  • Steve Copeland

    Been a huge fan of soundgarden and Alice in chains since the start not so much stp and while I love the music and mourn the loss I don’t think losing a band member is a condition of qualifying for hall of fame. It’s as if the bands that have been put forward don’t deserve to be because no one in their band has died. As others have said below these bands time will come hopefully when people are less emotional.

  • I think the whole hall of fame this is bullshit anyway. Do it for the love of music and sharing your musical gifts with the world. That’s the true hall of fame. Mentor the youth!

  • David Dms
  • Joe Costigan

    Who gives a shit really? The rock and roll hall of fame is a joke. I don’t think any of those bands formed with the intention or goal of making it into the rock and roll hall of fame. They became bands because they wanted to make music and the music they have all made stands the test of time.

  • John Russelman

    Audioslave was better than RATM…

    • Eleanor

      Agreed!

  • I believe they are purposely doing this to keep people interested in the HOF every year. Obviously, people are going to be tuning in for Soundgarden to be inducted and to tributize Cornell, whether it’s this year or next year. Same goes for AIC & STP. Maybe the “snub” is a way to stretch them out to get the most bang for their buck. Or there’s the possibility that because all 3 of these bands have lost the voice that they are known for maybe they’ll do all 3 at once and make it a statement about the ravaging effects of using drugs. Have to find someone to do Cornell justice first though.

  • Peggy Voss

    The r&rh obviously wasn’t listening to Rock music in the 90’s . I’ve been a rock & roller since the early 70’s and these bands are in my top 5. They need to be in the voting next year I guarantee they will be voted in

  • Charlie Mike

    Is the Rock & Roll HoF even relevant anymore?

  • Dan

    Why didn’t Limp Bizkit or the Dandy Warhols get nominated? If the Rock Hall keeps snubbing important bands as these people are going to think they don’t know what they are talkin’ about.

    • Kay B

      Dandies are friends of mine….I totally agree great band.

  • Dan

    STP is in there though… carved on the toilet lid, it just has sucks next to it.

  • Amy

    You know what? You don’t need a fancy memorial or any special recognition for any validation that you’re good enough. All 3 of these bands have their share of successes, influence, and a loyal fan base. That’s worth more than any sort of acknowledgement from snotty organizations. I never really listened to SoundGarden or Stone Temple Pilots, but I am a huge fan of Alice In Chains. A truly amazing band, Layne was an incredible singer, I have fond memories of t

  • I’m no AC/DC fan, but AC/DC not being in the Hall of Fame, I don’t know what they’re doing over there.

    • Diana

      They were inducted in 2003.

  • Rob Pawar

    Ed should return the accolade n place he got in RRHOF, He should do it. Watever… He Wil surely do something about it. M sure.

  • dakotablue

    The Hall of Shame has dissed the Chains for several years now. They also only give a few token nods to rock genres they don’t care for (despite huge sales), such as metal, alternative, rap, art rock and punk.

    While I’m glad to see the Moodies, Cars, Depeche Mode and Priest finally get nominated, what about the Cure, Jethro Tull, X, Wu-Tang Clan, Devo, Thin Lizzy, surf guitar pioneer Dick Dale, T Rex and ELP, to mention a few? I would hope AIC, STP and Soundgarden will make it in years to come but certainly not holding my breath.

  • Olga Stewart

    Van Halen gets inducted before Judas Priest does?

    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

    Not.

  • Olga Stewart

    Ella Fitzgerald hasn’t been inducted?

    What the hell?

  • The HOF is a joke, a farce and has always served to enshrine the egos of people who once claimed they would never belong to that kind of club. I don’t see the value to society or music in the existence of the RRHOF, and find only empty honor in those that have been inducted.

  • flankton

    Stp just about sold more albums than all of em combined. They sold an insane amount of records. But I don’t know how in gods name Chris Cornell is not in the rock hall of fame. Any real musician from classical to r&b knows he was one of the best composers and performers of all time. It’s just common knowledge. Ask a member from any orchestra on earth about chris Cornell and you get the same response as if you ask Paul McCartney or an opera singer. It’s pretty unanimous amongst all musicians chris Cornell was God level. So it just makes the rock hall look stupid.

    • HippieChic61

      The rock hall should actually be called the “random hall of music” or “Jan Wenners private collection”. How Chris and many others have been passed by is ridiculous!

  • No Code

    Real simple,,,,,,, The rock and roll hall of fame is a joke and has been a joke since day one.

    I could go into everything but it’ll turn into a book. But look who is in it and who isn’t. There are artists in the hall of fame that really compared to artists who aren’t is unreal!

    There’s groups who really were a fart in the wind at the time, and many people wouldn’t even know who they were. One hit wonders are in the hall of fame… really? wow! To sum it up just think of what happened to Rush. One of the biggest selling bands OF ALL TIME took 15 years to get in! I’m shocked they even showed up. But shit lets put in Lioyd Price,,,, who? exactly!!!!!

    I’ll save you the google, he’s one of many one hit farts in the wind members of the rock and roll hall of fame.

    I don’t need a joke of a place to tell me who was and still are influential! Or what real impact these great singers and the bands they were apart of had. I know it as I lived it!