Smashing Pumpkins’ D’arcy Reveals Why James Iha ‘Betrayed’ Her, Wants Him ‘Slapped Hard’


Original Smashing Pumpkins bassist D’arcy Wretzky emotionally opened up about the disintegration of her 30 year friendship with James Iha in a new comment on Alternative Nation, and described how she thought they’d be friends until one of them died. She also claimed that Billy Corgan’s attacks on her over the years have hurt her and her son’s lives.

A fan named Atrosion Band was trying to claim that D’arcy and Pogo from Marilyn Manson’s band were on Billy Corgan’s payroll, and that them attacking him was a publicity stunt. D’arcy responded:

i guess you haven’t had the pleasure of reading all of the very recent BS that’s been spewing forth from the Pumpkin’s camp about me.

i’m just giving people the option of the truth, and trying to GET some TRUTH out of James Iha.

He burned me VERY badly and i want to know
why he did it.

But apparently there is just no getting through to him.

He KNOWS he betrayed me-

– in the worst, ugliest, most inexcusable way that anyone
can have their loyalty and friendship betrayed:

for MONEY.

That’s all i can figure it’s about since he tossed our friendship out the window and won’t say why.

When Billy’s ‘people’ LIED about me, and lied about the whole situation, and THEN
they called ME a liar ???

(and ONLY because I publically said that I was not going to be on the “Reunion Tour of the Original Band Members”)

I got a little bit pissed off.

Billy knows better.
They ALL know better.

Billy has said over the years REPEATEDLY AND PUBLICLY that he respects me because I walk my talk and believe me:

i do my damndest to do just that.

I have a conscience that gives no quarter and is totally and completely unforgiving of me, so if i’m not always doing my absolute best in every facet of my life, i simply can’t live w/myself.

They all know this about me.
They all know that honesty is huge with me, and when James just sat back and went with it?

I couldn’t believe it.

I have been GRIEVING over this for a very long time now.

When i say “grieving”,

i mean i’m currently, actively going through the 7 stages of grief that people go through when someone they Love dies.

I thought that James and i would be very close friends till the day one of us died.

– for those of you who might not be from a country where English is the 1st language, we have a saying.

It’s something you say to someone who looks absolutely miserable:

“What’s the matter?
You look like you just lost your best friend.”

Well, i did.
… at least i thought i did, but i guess he wasn’t really my friend at all.

i guess that’s the whole point.

it certainly doesn’t make it hurt any less, in fact it hurts a whole lot more
now that i feel like i’ve been a made a fool of as well.

At any rate, word from the ‘Pumpkins’ was 1st:

i’d never been offered to be on the tour –
– a tour that I HELPED PLAN FOR 1 & 1/2 years! mind you!

2. they said that no money had been offered to me;

(AFTER Billy tried saying to me that i was the “one who walked away cause” i wasn’t happy about the % splits – i never walked away until it was clear that i had no shot at playing bass on the tour and was only being used
as a way to sell tickets-
-by coming on stage every now & then a’ la ‘Guns & Roses’, and that Billy had no intention of paying me anything.

They made up that nonsense about me declining invitations to things.


… and make NO mistake about it:


that i’m giving yet another of Willy’s fake reunion tours LOADS of PR that it never would have had, otherwise but I’ve kept quiet for too long.

As my bf said the other day:

My reputation is completely ruined – and TRY to imagine that it’s not just the small town i grew up in where everyone knows everything about everyone else anyway –

– i’m talking about ruined on a GLOBAL SCALE; the ‘World-Wide Web’.

people ALWAYS know what i used to do … and they know (or soon find out) the nasty, destructive things that Billy has said about me. (again: publicly;

And they nearly always believe him, so NO.

i worked too hard for too many years to get healthy again and there’s no way that i’m just going to simply sit back and let Billy’s lies -and the haters- destroy me, my life, my son’s life, our heath, happiness and any careers i choose to pursue again.

You have to understand that I am a FIERCELY loyal friend, and that I have saved James’ ass LITERALLY (Yes; i have literally saved his LIFE time and again when he obliviously walked into the street in front of oncoming traffic REPEATEDLY in countries where people drive on the left side of the road; i have also had to pull him backstage by the scruff of his shirt-neck after he wandered out into the audience of arena floors we were playing because HE THOUGHT THAT HE WAS WALKING ONTO THE STAGE!!!!!

AND i’ve saved his butt financially in every lawsuit between us and Billy that ever was, and believe me-there were more than a few.

Also i’ve been down with the flu for a month now.

My fever reached 106.7• & 106.5•on 2 consecutive days and i did think that i was going to die & i had nothing to lose, so forgive me if i’ve acted out and said some things that may seem “mean”.

I’m hurt, angry, pretty damn bored and i can’t sleep at night because this has all been very upsetting to me on top of 2016/17 which were horrible years of death & loss for me on a ridiculous scale.

If anyone sees James iha and has the opportunity?

Slap him good and hard and tell him it’s from me.

(hey, i can dream, can’t i?)

She also discussed Billy Corgan’s Instagram posts.

Billy can communicate just fine when it suits him, but most of the time he’s NOT trying to communicate with people. … at least not trying to communicate the truth.

Billy spends %100 of his time and energy trying to prove to the world how much smarter he is about everything than anyone else is.

His communiques are full of false humility, condescension, misused words, MADE-UP words and a whole lot of bs, psycho-babble; & pseudo-spiritual bullshit to try to cover up the fact that he literally thinks he is the Messiah.

… unless he’s trying to – oh gosh – I don’t speak wrestling.
what did he call it ???
“run you”?

and he really isn’t as good at that as he thinks he is, people just don’t have the attention span’s or the time for his long, drawn out, boring, nonsensical diatribes.

Sadly most people think that if they don’t understand something that someone is saying?

– especially if that someone is using big words-

then that person that must be smarter than they are.

It just isn’t true.

i’ve learned from experience that 98%
of the time if I can’t understand what someone is saying?

They’re just full of shit.

Btw: Billy is NOT “manic-depressive” (they’re calling that “Bi-Polar” now)

He simply is self absorbed
that it just seems that way. (to him as well)

you want to talk about someone who never gives a single thought to ACTUAL IMPORTANT things that happen every day on this planet? Like war?, genicide?, mass extinction of hundreds od species? the poisoning of our planet? He doesn’t give a shit. I don’t have a psychic ANYTHING W/William P. Corgan. We had very similar experiences growing up.

He chose to react one way: a MASSIVE chip on his shoulder thinking that the world OWES him, and i chose a different way.

I know 2 important things:

1. I don’t really know anything;

2. the only reason i can think of for being here is if i can help anything get through this life with a little less pain.

“Life IS pain Highness.
Anyone else who says differently is selling something.”

  • BillyCorganFanClub

    So James too, prefers Billy over that crazy broad. Can’t blame him! Welcome back to the club!

    • SteveWilmos

      Guess that’s why he stayed dormant all these years and remained friends with her until the money and nostalgia train collided. It’s probably not as bad with Jeff as a buffer.

      She’s been quiet for decades and finally talks, while his mouth has been exposing the narcissist mercurial mood swings that turned the bulk of the fan base and musical community off years ago. She speaks a couple times and he can’t handle it, has his cronies descend on her in a clearly vulnerable state like @#&ing buzzards and thinks that’s okay? Some of the last hangers on gave him the benefit of the doubt until that shit.

      “Oh i was just kidding, all of those 2 hours rants were a wrestling stunt”. But hey, Pale Horse was cool…not sure if it was worth it, though.

    • DanSwon

      Oh look, a sexist ‘BillyCorganFanClub’. I can’t imagine they’re biased or anything! Ignore.

  • Olga Stewart

    I do agree with her about this: ‘His communiques are full of false humility, condescension,
    misused words, MADE-UP words and a whole lot of bs, psycho-babble; &
    pseudo-spiritual bullshit to try to cover up the fact that he literally
    thinks he is the Messiah.’

    It fairly jumps off of the screen when you read it from his IG posts.

    • Corndog

      As we say in NI, he’s talking ballicks;)

      • Olga Stewart

        Bolllocks too. Ha ha!

        • Corndog

          Ballicks is like bollocks with a Belfast accent;)

    • John Scott

      I appreciate the fact that Darcy’s reached out to fans one-on-one, rather than Billy’s approach of speaking only when he can control the message. It’s clear now that he wasn’t going to let her be in the band, so it’s not really a reunion – no matter what he thinks. It’s a shame – and she did nothing to deserve this. He talks about how he’s so forgiving, and enlightened, and it’s all bullsh*t. He’s a total hypocrit. He’s over 50 years old, and he still can’t deal with anything – or anyone – that he can’t control. I hope he gets bombarded with chants of “D’arcy” at the shows on the tour.

      • Olga Stewart

        He sounds like he was a nightmare to work with.

        And since D’arcy was the only one who would stand up to him, she’s the one that gets painted in a bad light.

        I think D’arcy wanted the best for the band. But obviously Billy was never going to be on the same page about that.

        And that is a shame.

  • Corndog

    D’arcy seems like a genuinely nice person. I’d love to sit down and have a conversation with her.

    It really is a shame that she has been shit on so badly. If you’re reading this D’arcy, try not to let it get you down. Your reputation isn’t ruined with everyone. There are plenty of fans out here in internet land that still love you! I honestly think that you have came out of this whole thing as the bigger person, and confirmed what many of us have suspected for years; Corgan is a ballbag.

    I know it is unlikely, but is there anything that we can do for you? Anything to help ease the anguish you’re feeling over all this crap?

    • ricky_fitts

      D’arcy, you sound so much more authentic and grounded than Billy these last years. My impression is that, for whatever reason, he’s trying (too) hard to bring back the Golden Days of the band. So far it hasn’t worked out and we all know it won’t in the future just by calling a tour a “reunion”. For art to be beautiful it takes the magic of the right people at the right time. I’d only want to see you all together again if you enjoyed what you were doing and if it made you happy. Therefore I believe you have made the right choices, even if it doesn’t feel like it. Get well soon! Hope this helps a bit 🙂

  • Stone Gossardish

    She seems pretty cool indeed.

  • mike

    Reading this about Iha made me think of the end of the “33” video, the two of them together on a swing, a moment that would not last … as far as I’m concerned that’s pretty much the moment when the band ended

  • NahNood

    Sounds like the fever melted what’s left of her brain.

  • DanSwon

    James Iha does seem pretty spineless. It really sucks being let down by a friend like that. Also, can someone please ban ‘Atrosion Band’ because they spout endless insane gibberish conspiracy theories (hey, maybe it’s actually Billy!) and it seems D’Arcy is less inclined to interact with people in comments with nonsense like that around.

    Stay strong d’Arcy, I know this sucks.

  • Think Like Ya Enemy

    She is so fvckin wacked out

    • Waxmuseummeltdown

      Why? She’s a wounded soul.

  • Julieta Garcia

    Omg d’arcy you are so beautiful, you are a great reference for me. It is not because of
    flattery that you always grabbed my attention, to the point of seeing your beauty in Catherine’s video aha, admiring woman to woman. I play bass and a little guitar and you are an inspiration. Never let a man or woman mistreat you, I have suffered violence in my work and we do not have to tolerate it. No more. I read out there that many idiot people did not want to be friends with you when Billy’s imbecile mistreated you, he must have few balls. I would really love to be your friend, Kisses I love you. I should write your biography 😛

  • Megan Holt

    I know I’m super late to the conversation, but as a long time fan of not just the pumpkin’s music but also the personally this all really makes me so sad. It’s kinda up stupid, but when I was a 14 year old dweeb with no friends, I would pour over their interviews and watch/listen to their onstage banter with as interest as their catalog. I adored them as people, I still do. I loved their quirks, their weird sense of humor and the unfiltered complexities of difficult relationships between strong personalities. I’d truly consider all 4 of them to be my friends, and it breaks my heart to see all of this unfold.

    That said, I don’t think D’arcy is wrong. She has no reason to lie. I wish I could reach out to her as a friend and commiserate with her, help her work through the sting. I get completely why she is angry, she has every right to be, but at the same time I can see it from James’ angle too. I had no idea until very recently that he was married with kids and I suspect that how he prefers it. I only knew until his Instagram mentioned it, and he posted a few ambiguous shots of them, right around the time this issue surfaced, and I don’t think that’s an accident.

    Yes, I do believe James is in it for the money. He has worked so hard the last few years to distance himself away as much as possible, and if it weren’t for the fact that he has a family to support now he’d be more than happy to keep it that way. I think Trump getting elected has everyone concerned about the future and other unfun stuff like financial stability and economical strife, so it makes sense why he would be open to the idea now. I almost feel like that’s why he revealed his closely guarded personal life, to say, hey, this is what I’m working for now. Friendship is important and I emphasize with D’arcy’s bitterness of his turncoating, but ultimately, he has to prioritize his kids first and look out for their future. It’s so sad that these are the times we live in where such choices have to be made :,(