10 Reasons Why Dave Grohl Is A Bigger Icon Than Kurt Cobain

83
2

Rock and roll is alive and well thanks in big part to the Foo Fighters. Dave Grohl and company have once again brought fans of the band and alternative music alike to a fever pitch with the announcement of a new album. Concrete and Gold, the upcoming ninth album is set to be released on September 15th.

Thus far, the track “Run” has received a pretty positive response. No surprise. The Foo Fighters have consistently released strong material through their twenty-plus career. Not to mention, they have one of the biggest icons, if not the biggest icon in rock music leading the way. Dave Grohl is rock and roll royalty. He’s no stranger to it. His Nirvana front man, the late Kurt Cobain wrote that book in the early 90’s,

But here’s where this takes a turn. Dave Grohl is a bigger icon than Kurt Cobain. That’s right I said it. Here are the Top Ten Reasons why.

  1. Nirvana Still Reigns Supreme

This is a gimme. Dave Grohl could have called it a post-Nirvana world and we’d still be talking about him. Just think about Krist Novoselic. His musical output has been sparse at best in the years since the death of Kurt Cobain but he is still revered for his solid playing and contributions. By being part of Nirvana, Grohl carries that torch with him adding to the overall total package of Icon-status.

  1. Dave Grohl is Hilarious

Dave’s personality and his humor and its role in his music, specifically music videos is top notch. By being a goof and being funny, Grohl comes across as “the rocker next door.” An everyman’s everyman that anyone and everyone can find funny and personable yet extremely charming. For all of Kurt Cobain’s strength, and the man had a plethora of them, there was a persistent darkness and edge to him right up until his untimely death.

  1. Get This Man on Your Talk Show

In the late 90’s-early aughts, Grohl popped up on The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn. It was opportunities such as these appearences that allowed Grohl to spread his wings and let the world get to know the real Dave Grohl. And once everyone did, everyone became a fan.

  1. Dave Grohl The Innovator

Sonic Highways. Probot. Sound City. Three strikingly ambitious projects. Three fantastic results. The lone Probot album brought together a number of Grohl’s idols from punk, hardcore and heavy metal, including the almighty Lemmy to make one hell of a treasure of an album.  Between the television show and the album, the Foo Fighters eighth, Sonic Highways, Grohl wasn’t content to sit in in his 606 Studio and basically just churn out another album. Traveling the country, finding inspiration and writing and recording songs in different cities; who else would attempt this?

  1. Dave Grohl- Drummer Extraordinaire

If you underestimate his ability on the drums, you are making a huge mistake. Lightning fast fills, multi-layered patterns and back beats and the ability to serve the song put him in a class all his own. He is widely considered one of the best drummers of not only his generation, but of rock music in general. And the man hasn’t drummed full-time since 1994!

  1. If You’re Looking For A Guest Musician….

You can make the argument that Dave Grohl is the world’s most famous studio musician. Think about some of these names in music: Tom Petty, Nine Inch Nails, Tenacious D, Tony Iommi and Slash. What does this diverse group of musicians have in common? You guessed it! Dave has either played live with or recorded with them. It seems like whenever there is a concern of, “Who is going to drum on this?’”, Grohl is instantly swung into action, a superhero drummer of sorts, here to save the tempo and song.

  1. The Drummer Wants To Sing

A quick shout out to Phil Collins and Don Henley. No disrespect intended. Nirvana was a juggernaut. Think about this. Ringo Starr went solo, like the other Beatles. But he had a history of jumping in front of a mic (pitch and key irregardless) throughout the Beatles history. And even on some hit songs. Grohl did not sing “Come As You Are” or “Rape Me”.  Althogh we did have Marigold. No one saw this transformation coming. Oh yeah, the drummer wants to be the singer…I feel like that’s a recurring joke. But for Grohl, the joke was on everyone who doubted his ability as a singer, guitarist and above all else, an absolute masterful songwriter.

  1. QOTSA & TCV

Around 2002, Dave joined forces with Queens of the Stone Age. It was on that band’s masterpiece, Songs For the Deaf, that Dave really got back into the swing of drumming full time. Killer tracks “No One Knows” and “Song For The Dead” show that for Dave, he was only getting better. Fast forward to 2013, Dave once again joined QOTSA for their sixth album, the number one charted …Like Clockwork. In between stints with QOTSA, Grohl teamed once again with Josh Homme and Led Zeppelin bassist John Paul Jones to create the wonderful Them Crooked Vultures. I feel they’re criminally underrated. Their 2009 eponymous debut (and only album to date) is a must own for any rock fan.  Again here, Grohl goes back home, returning behind the drums, delivering song-for-song what might be his strongest album as a drummer.

2 Foo Fighters The Most Consistent Band in the Business

To date, Grohl and the boys have released eight albums. Five have gone platinum while a further two have been certified Gold. On top of that, on Billboard’s Mainstream chart, the band has an insane twenty songs that have landed in the Top Ten. Wait. Correction Twenty-one. The lead single, “Run” from their upcoming album currently sits at number four. And just to drive this point, of these twenty-one, a ridiculous six have landed at the number one spot. The band has survived past post-grunge, nu-metal, pop-punk, emo, screamo and a bunch of other hot trash to establish themselves as the reigning kings of alternative and rock music. Foo Fighters have released a greatest hits album back in 20009. By time their career is done, if CDs still exist, it’ll need to be a triple-album.

  1. It’s Been Almost Thirty Years

This goes hand and hand with everything else on this list but tops it off nicel. It’s longevity. Kurt Cobain influenced a generation. That is not for debate. But t was a short window. Time is not always kind. Think Poison and Ratt. They were huge! Huge in the 80’s but time has only diminished their contribution(?) to the world of music. I’m not saying Kurt Cobain is anything like those bands or musicians. He is not. But the point is, that Grohl proved he can hang for nearly thirty years. Fairly or not, Kurt Cobain was not afforded that opportunity. Grohl played in a throne with a broken leg just to keep the rain rolling. This man, for his sheer tenacity and unwavering need to produce and play beautifully rich and strong music for as long and as often as he can. And for his ability to do in longer and better than anyone else, he is the biggest icon in rock music; bar none.

 

 

  • astrocreep7

    I like Dave a lot. But you should just delete this entire article. Such a joke. I can’t turn a corner without seeing a Nirvana shirt! Poison/Ratt wtf are you on about man? I can list so many reasons how you’re completely wrong but that’s not going to happen tonight. Later

    • Mike Lyons

      Hum!

      • Motto

        Hum, very underrated.

        • Mike Lyons

          Same with Failure.

  • Raj

    Not a chance, he seems to be everywhere from Foo Fighters, to QOTSA, Probot, TCV, Sound City. He’s huge and he’s a natural front man who has always been very outgoing but Cobain was a better songwriter the voice of generation of alienated youth and kids from broken homes who shunned success. Cobain wasn’t a natural front man or the best guitar player nor did he want to be. His stuff is timeless. Try to comprehend this Joe, a billion yes a billion pages have been written about Cobain that’s basically 1/7th of the entire world’s population. I’m tired of the longevity and quantity argument it’s a moot point. Cobain made his stamp on history with a small sample size, quality beats quantity any day of the week.

    • Motto

      With the help of Dave Grohl.

      The reason why there is endless conjecture about Cobain is because he killed himself at his peak. It’s like the girl of your dreams breaking up with you and never seeing her again. There’s no closure. Just endless “what ifs” and constant questions. Nirvana wasn’t even the more popular grunge band when he died.

      Cobain died before he could decline. Why do people assume he would be writing Teen Spirit Part II up to his 70s?

      Get real.

    • Hwang Sunghyeop

      Fuck man even Kurt is better guitar player. And do not say he died at his peak. Who knows?

      • Iv

        Dave Grohl will never be bigger icon than Kurt Cobain.Kurt Cobain is a legend.

        • Corndog

          Yep. A shotgun blast to the head at 27 will do that to you.

  • rt316

    Grohl will NEVER be bigger icon than Cobain. Period.

    • Motto

      Just become a junkie and kill yourself at your peak!

      • Go Hiomlán Mandelbrotmenge Imi

        What an embarrasing comment from a human point of view.

        • Motto

          From a human point of view, he’s an asshole for leaving behind an infant daughter, if you really wanna go there.

          • Go Hiomlán Mandelbrotmenge Imi

            Ever heard of depression? Suicidal thoughts? Drug addiction? It is not ok to leave your family behind but don’t you think he paid enough because he paid with his life?

      • HotMess88

        I agree that an early exit often enhances the memory/perception of an artist’s talent and therefore, their legacy. However, Nirvana’s MTV Unplugged session so obviously demonstrated Cobain’s musical genius (and Grohl’s exceptional drumming skills). Have to POLITELY agree to disagree – Cobain was, perhaps, the last great rockstar.

        • Motto

          Disagree there too. Unplugged is great, but the “legacy” is all about the studio albums. The best songs from Unplugged weren’t even theirs. They were covers. (The Man Who Sold the World, Where Did You Sleep Last Night, etc.)

          • Hwang Sunghyeop

            A lot of people knew Kurt wrote those songs.

          • Motto

            Cobain did NOT write The Man Who Sold the World, Where Did You Sleep Last Night, etc.

            Those songs were covers.

            Who gave you internet access today?

          • Hwang Sunghyeop

            Motto, I understand what you say. but usually most youngs want to see some Nirvana videos first then they knew it was cover songs. so that is not about the song-writing process things. but it was cover with his ideas. a little bit process?

          • Motto

            Dude, I have no idea what the hell you just said. I’m done here.

          • Hwang Sunghyeop

            man what the fuck you want to?
            many young people have fuck no ideas of Lead Belly or David Bowie. they just want to see Nirvana video. then they know those are not original Nirvana songs.

          • Motto

            That sound you heard was the point I made going right over your head.

            Nirvana’s songs weren’t as good as the covers. Pretty simple.

          • Hwang Sunghyeop

            Nirvana’s songs weren’t as good as the covers? Fuck No.

          • Motto

            All people fawn over is the end of Where Did You Sleep Last Night. Lake of Fire was a single, and so was The Man Who Sold the World. All of these songs are covers.

            The only Nirvana songs that were singles or compared were All Apologies and About a Girl.

          • Hwang Sunghyeop

            Those songs made by Nirvana’s way. though only two original songs, those overwhelming covers.

          • Motto

            English.

          • Hwang Sunghyeop

            okay son, I’ll teach some english word today for you.
            1. Better is not for the words like Discography or body work.
            ——> a large number of
            2. Prefer is someone’s choice
            ——> you know this but you act like a child who don’t know this word.
            so, you should check what you said above.

  • Rose Forman

    I think you need to look up the definition of the word “Icon” again. Cobain is iconic, Grohl isn’t.

    • Iv

      that’s right babe

  • Azhamd Shaari

    Foo fighters and dave grohl definitely are bigger Rockstar. But he is not iconic….

  • Ricardo Pereda

    Dude. Kill yourself. You can’t compare them. Grohl is a really talented performer and a charismatic frontman, but in no way his material (foo fighters) can be compared to Cobain’s. Grohl’s Foo Fighters are plain and simple: Generic. Grohl had a great start but you could see the influence of Cobain in his early material. With each record they have put out they become more and more safe and colorless.

    • Motto

      Maybe you should stop comparing a guy who died at his peak with musicians who are almost 50. Cobain would have released his fair share of weak material, but if you dig the depressed junkie shtick, by all means. Nirvana was a bit too one-dimensional, and Cobain never topped Smells Like Teen Spirit, which was their first hit.

      • Motto

        Yes, reply. PLEASE. I gotta see what you have to say.

      • Raj

        They have a lot of songs better than Teen Spirit. To say Cobain never topped it depends on how you look at it. Commercially no, but artistically anyone could argue Heart shaped box, Drain you, Lithium or In bloom as better.

        • Motto

          These bathroom wall discussions are better for the pub, but we’ll have to stick the keyboard.

          Nevermind is about half good. Very classic indeed. The singles are the best songs. Smells Like Teen Spirit. In Bloom. Come as You Are. Lithium. Those are among the best. Only one of which I would consider a bonafide classic. My personal favorite is probably Come as You Are. Something in the Way is probably one I would add as a non-single that is revered. Other than that. On a Plain, Stay Away, Lounge Act, Breed, etc. Catchy songs. Not much substance. “I’m on a plain, I can’t complain” – such genius. Most are just heartbreak songs about Tracy Marander.

          In Utero. Scentless Apprentice is probably the best track. Guess who wrote the music?

          Heart-Shaped Box is probably Cobain’s other masterpiece. The rest of the album is much ado about absolutely nothing. Milk It? Very Ape? Pennyroyal Tea I can’t stand. I can go on. Best part about Frances Farmer is the bridge.

          It’s very musically raw and Albini did a great job “recording” it (doesn’t like the word producing), but it’s usual one-dimensional Cobain songwriting. Where is the substance? It’s not exactly Bob Dylan or Bad Religion.

          • Mike Lyons

            You also have to consider the era that Nirvana was active. Kurt Cobain broke so many barriers during that time. Sure, Dave is a great musician, and a rockstar in every sense of the word. But how has he changed music, aside from writing radio friendly music that everyone likes?
            I think to compare Dave to Kurt is futile. We will never know what Kurt would have done, because he had such a short career. With all due respect, you guys are talking about are “what-ifs”. Let me put it another way, if the Foo Fighters had only been around a few years, like Nirvana, would they be as legendary as Nirvana?

            If you think about it, Nirvana skyrocketed to fame over the course of a few months. They were just getting started when Kurt ended his life. One could argue that if it wasn’t for Nirvana, Dave would have had a harder time breaking through and reaching people.
            Foo Fighters are awesome, don’t get me wrong. I just think they’ve had the opportunity to become “iconic”. This article is nonsense because it’s like comparing apples to oranges.

          • Motto

            I’m in more or less defense mode. I’m a huge fan of both, but people really need to temper their emotions about Cobain and Nirvana and see it at face value.

            People act like the guy would be writing Nevermind Part 6 at 50 years old in 2017. Cobain would have likely petered out or faded away and released subpar material. It happens to everyone. Out of all the thousands or hundreds of songs or artists I enjoy, not one of them is immune to that. Nobody. Cobain is not a musical god and nothing is more cliche than liking Nirvana or Smells Like Teen Spirit. Cobain selfishly checked out at his peak. Queue the endless questions about “what if”. Part of me thinks he knew he would never top it and he would always be judged in that light no matter what he did.

          • Mike Lyons

            I agree that Kurt is not a musical god. But we can’t say what he was thinking, or what he would have done. Tbh, when I was 16, and Nevermind came out, there was an explosion – all because of what they were doing. There hasn’t been the same kind of explosion since. Sure, maybe they couldn’t have topped that success. But Kurt had already cemented his legacy with one album. Dave hasn’t quite done the same.

          • Motto

            There hasn’t been a similar explosion since partly becuse I think it can’t happen again given the shift in how music is consumed. The internet killed the radio star. People don’t need the radio anymore to rely on music. YouTube and the internet has also killed off music scenes. The grunge scene was born out of isolation. Now you can just upload onto the same medium from all over the globe.

            I am pretty sure Dave’s legacy has been cemented from Nevermind (he was on it) up to the last 18 albums he’s been on since.

        • Iv

          all songs on Nevermind album is a genius stuff

      • Stone Gossardish

        There are those that presume Nirvana would’ve ended up being known as a one hit wonder had Cobain lived and they never reformed.

        • Motto

          Considering they never topped their first hit, I can see it.

          People gawk at even the notion of that (“oh no, my beloved Cobain! how dare you!”) but to play devil’s advocate, let’s seriously consider that POV.

          Nirvana’s biggest hit was Smells Like Teen Spirit. They only released one album after that. People can argue all they want about whether it’s better, but it wasn’t Nevermind, and there was no Smells Like Teen Spirit on it. Shortly after that, the band is done. Literally everything about Nirvana is about Smells Like Teen Spirit.

          Everything.

          EVERYTHING.

          It’s entirely based on the fact that they didn’t release bigger hits after hitting the mainstream. Their biggest hit was the song that got them to the mainstream and that was it. Every subsequent release didn’t match up to it. The band was only in the spotlight for three and a half years.

          It’s not like a natural progression a la Radiohead where The Bends is clearly better than Pablo Honey, or Kid A from OK Computer. (as overrated as Kid A is).

  • Stone Gossardish

    If you just line up their music, Foo Fighters are the better band. I’m sorry, folks. But’s its far from a fair fight. How many records do the Foos have, and how many did Nirvana put out?

    People also forget that Nirvana was split at the time of Cobain’s death, and apparently Grohl did too because somewhere in the early 2000s he stopped telling people that publicly as he had for about a decade.

    • Motto

      Dave is the better musician, and his peak material is better than Kurt’s, but people love the wounded junkie thing, so they gawk over Cobain. Funny thing is, Nirvana didn’t blow up until Dave joined the band. Teen Spirit is credited to all three members because it came from a jam. Sounds like Kurt needed Dave to get big just as much as Dave needed Kurt. I listen to Nirvana mostly for the drums anyway. Chalk one up for Dave. Sorry Kurt. You wrote some good stuff (cliche) but you’re far too one dimensional. Cobain didn’t write a positive tune to save his life.

      • Stone Gossardish

        Good point. And for those that haven’t seen the initial version of Teen Spirit, it’s in “Hype!” and it’s worth a watch.

        • Motto

          The boombox version where Dave adds a bit more drum chops is great.

      • Raj

        Cobain wrote masterpieces like Saopy and In Bloom well before Bleach was a record. Grohl was the final piece but his peak material doesn’t even scratch the surface.

        • Motto

          Sappy and In Bloom are masterpieces? I think I’m done here.

          SERIOUSLY?

          • Raj

            Yes they are, i’m shocked Sappy, Drain You were never released as singles.

          • Motto

            You prefer Cobain. I prefer Grohl. Peak material ABSOLUTELY can be compared. Woof.

            Let’s remember. Grohl helped Cobain write his masterpiece.

            Most of the reason I even listen to Nirvana is because of the drums.

      • Mike Lyons

        Chad Channing helped Nirvana write most of the drum material for Nevermind. Not sure where you’re getting your info from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdN7CPqXKHE
        Dave is a phenomenal drummer and musician (he was involved with the composition of Smells Like Teen Spirit), but he wasn’t the reason Nirvana took off. It was their time. They were doing something nobody else was doing. When the Foo Fighters took off, they weren’t. Not to say that Dave isn’t an amazing songwriter. The Foos just weren’t as groundbreaking.

        • Motto

          They don’t HAVE to be groundbreaking, though.

          Nirvana wasn’t groundbreaking either. Kurt, Dave and Krist made the one song needed (from a jam) to break into the mainstream. That’s pretty much it. Sgt. Peppers is groundbreaking. Nevermind is not groundbreaking.

          Dave was already groundbreaking in one band. I think to expect him to be culture defining a second time is a bit disingenous.

        • Motto

          They don’t have to be groundbreaking though, and Nirvana wasn’t groundbreaking either. It wasn’t like nobody had heard guitar, bass and drums before. Nirvana just made the one song that was needed to bring the underground 80’s to the mainstream. That’s it. That’s their credit.

          Dave came up with the drums on the most important song, as well as Come as You Are. That pretty much says it all right there. In Utero is artistically hailed as better than Nevermind, which has zero to do with Channing.

          • Trovoid

            Most people don’t get it. I liked Nirvana a lot when I was younger because they’re easy to digest on the first listen. I soon discovered Pearl Jam was a much better band. After that I realized the power of bands like Soundgarden and AIC. Soundgarden’s music is light years ahead of anything Kurt Cobain wrote. Kurt didn’t even enjoy making music anymore. And honestly his songwriting is super repetitive and the lyrics are borderline moronic. Nirvana was good but not great. I agree that dying like he did at his age is why the band is given so much credit. He wrote some decent pop songs but I don’t think he crafted any super meaningful masterpieces like some of those other bands did.

    • Mike Lyons

      It was my understanding that they were just on a break until Kurt got straight.

      • Stone Gossardish

        That’s not what Grohl said for about a decade, but who knows. He stopped saying that about 10 years ago then kinda rewrote his own history in the awesome documentary on the Foos.

        Courtney has pretty much stuck to saying that band was over as recently as her last stint on the Stern Show about 5 years back.

  • Gary Reilly

    Interesting article. I love both bands, amongst many others. But to really say one is a bigger icon than the other is a difficult thing; totally different volume of output, different styles of music, different songwriting styles, different cultural impact. What defines an ‘icon’ exactly? Cobain is remembered in a Lennon-esque way, does that make him an icon? Meanwhile, Grohl has continued with musical output in the intervening years and has hundreds of thousands – if not millions – of fans who may have turned to rock music or picked up an instrument because of him – does that make him an icon? Food for thought. Personally, I think there’s plenty of room for both of them – they have both made a huge impact on rock/alternative music, one way or another.

  • Motto

    Cobain was a depressed junkie who wrote one-dimensional angst for three albums and left behind an infant daughter. He wasn’t half the musician, or the person that Grohl is.

    Buzz Osborne knew the guy and says the same thing. Cobain died at his peak and there is no closure. If Cobain had lived, Nirvana would’ve broken up anyway and he would have declined. Then he (hopefully) would have cleaned up and stuck around to raise his daughter, but no, that’s not rock and roll!

    Maybe Cobain could’ve learned from Dave and realized that being alive is the most important part, or writing more upbeat music.

    • Raj

      His lifestyle doesn’t matter, you cannot bring in someone’s lifestyle in evaluating their body of work. Writing more upbeat music would not be representative of Kurt, he said he would rather die as himself instead of pretending to be someone he is not. Sure he could have written mainstream rock, the Foos write a lot of radio friendly mainstream songs. That’s wasn’t Cobain’s MO.

      • Motto

        They both grew up listening to the same bands. Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, ABBA, etc. just as much as Wipers and Flipper.

        Cobain wanted to be a rock star.

        He was too wrapped up in heroin and became a different person. Nirvana is radio friendly and mainstream last I checked. They’re the ones who started bringing the 80’s underground to the mainstream. Cobain didn’t have to make the music videos either. Come on, dude.

        Lifestyle and material absolutely matters. Cobain wrote one-dimensional angst. That’s it. His most positive song is either All Apologies or About a Girl. I’m way more interested in that than f**king Pennyroyal Tea. The most droning song I’ve ever heard.

        Is it a bad thing to write upbeat music? I don’t get it. You have to write Radio Friendly Unit Shifter for 12 straight songs?

        • IrregularJohn

          It seems like you do not consider Grohl’s FF drivel as being the most generic thing ever, they’re basically Nickelback as far as I’m concerned. And I’m not even a Nirvana/Cobain fan (the other big 3 Seattle bands were way more influential and diverse). Grohl’s talent is drumming, that’s it period, he shines behind the kit.

          Being a frontman and writing something that his descendants would find inspiring and would still listen to 40 years from now is not something he excels at IMHO.

          • Motto

            If you consider the first few albums to be drivel, then please follow in Cobain’s footsteps. Your comment literally made me sit here for a few minutes, speechless.

          • IrregularJohn

            Seems like I bothered a beehive here. Don’t mind me.

  • Josh Hutchinson

    I agree with Ricardo. First off those are all kinda lame reasons to make someone an icon. Foo Fighters music is just corporate trash now. Cobain was a true artists. Grohl dose now even compare to the songwriting talent and vocal talent of Kurt.

    Come on dude.

    • Motto

      Kurt Cobain was a vocal talent? I think you have him confused with Chris Cornell.

      FF isn’t corporate. DG owns the music. AKA – They do what they want.

      • Josh Hutchinson

        Red carpet all star jams and talk shows. No,. He’s not a corporate goodball.

        • Josh Hutchinson

          Goofball

          • Motto

            You do realize that all 90’s rock stars are in their.. 40s and 50s right? And uh, people MATURE and grow up, right? Eddie Vedder is playing the ukulele! Oh no! Tom Morello was on Bill Maher! The horror!

            You do realize that Dave and Krist learned to appreciate life after Kurt’s death, right? I mean, use your f**king head.

            “Musical guilt is what killed Kurt, so like whatever you want.” – DG

            You’re probably one of those ultra Nirvana fans that thinks Kurt Cobain would be writing In Utero part III at 50.

          • Motto

            You do realize that he is 48 years old, right? People change as they get older?

            Pretty sure Dave and Krist both learned from Kurt’s death, that being alive is the most important thing. Continuing the depressed junkie music shtick is a bit contrived.

            Eddie Vedder plays the ukulele on his new solo album. Chris Cornell made an album with Timbaland. Tom Morello is a Cubs fan, which is owned by a billionaire, and QOTSA is recording an album with Mark Ronson, who produced Uptown Funk.

            “Musical guilt is what killed Kurt, so like whatever you want.” – DG

          • Josh Hutchinson

            Cheers.

          • IrregularJohn

            All those quys doing what they’re doing today is laughable (from Vedder to Homme).

      • Iv

        Kurt was a good singer too,not like Cornell,but he was good

  • Nick Freno

    Kurt Cobain was a far superior songwriter to Dave Grohl. Grohl is a great musician and cool dude but he cant compete with Kurt’s songwriting and voice.

    • Motto

      I’ll take DG’s best over KC’s, easily. Dave helped Kurt write his best, after all.

      • Nick Freno

        Kurt Cobains B-sides are better than Dave Grohl’s best songs.

        • Motto

          Thanks for the laugh.

          Wait, you were serious? Oh wow.

      • Kevin Rigot

        How do you know that?

        • Motto

          Smells Like Teen Spirit, Nirvana’s best song, came from a jam. It’s the only song on Nevermind credited to all three members.

          Their biggest hit, best song, THE song etc. is a songwriting credit to all three members. Very fitting, and it’s a nice rebuttal to people who think the band was just Cobain.

          Also, hurry up and trade Duchene.

  • Motto

    Let the Cobain circlejerk begin.

  • Kevin Rigot

    Ha!

  • Unglued

    Eddie Vedder is far superior to both.

  • Joe Costigan

    It’s an interesting article. For me it is hard to compare the two. It’s easy to forget what an impact Nirvana had in the early 90s. I was a young kid but I was very drawn to Nirvana and the whole grunge movement. Nirvana was the face for the huge alternative movement in rock music which had been building up since the 80s. I do not listen to Nirvana nearly as much as I did as a kid, teenager or in college but I still think Cobain was a gifted song writer, had a good haunting voice and was talented. Cobain died at 27, still young in the grand scheme of things and left more questions than answers.

    The Foo Fighters are a very good band, I really liked their three records released in the 90s and since than it has been hit or miss to me. Grohl and his longevity are to be admired but it also allows him to have obviously release more material due to the fact he has outlived Kurt by 20 years. It’s hard for me to really criticize Grohl because as you get older you do change, priorities shift and you kind of lose your edge – if you don’t do that you just become the creepy old guy at the bar. I think the new song is really good and the fact he can write a good hard rock song is a testament to his ability. I do sometimes feel like he tries a little too hard to be the savior of rock music and think that he could find ways to try to pump life into rock music behind the scenes rather than thinking he has to save rock.

    I really don’t understand how anyone can really bash Cobain or Grohl. It’s totally understandable to prefer one over the other but have a great appreciation for both of them.

  • clouds

    The article refers to “iconic” and in that sense Kurt Cobain has literally no comparison with anyone. He is the iconic symbol of an entire generation and beyond.