Smashing Pumpkins’ Billy Corgan Reveals Why He Was ‘Horrified’ By D’arcy

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Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan has commented for the first time on D’arcy Wretzky sharing text messages with Alternative Nation. He told the New York Times in a new interview that he had not seen D’arcy in 19 years and he called the exposure of their correspondence “horrifying,” though he declined to get into the specifics of her accusations.

“I think what she did demonstrates why she couldn’t be involved,” Mr. Corgan said. “I was vulnerable and shared things and trusted that there was a reason to give it a chance, despite plenty of empirical evidence that that was not a wise decision.” That bridge is now burned “forever,” he added.

He also discussed reuniting with Iha and Chamberlin.

“It’s a bit akin to trying to rekindle a romance almost two decades later,” Mr. Corgan said, away from his bandmates. “The love is there, but, you know, is the language? Is the magic there?”

He also discussed how his public personality has affected the band over the years.

“If I kept my mouth shut, and if I kept my band together,” Mr. Corgan, who wore silver Gucci high-tops and a trucker hat, said, “we’d be playing a lot bigger venues and we would be a lot more successful, and we’d be in somebody’s Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.”

Corgan said that, for a time, “the controversy worked to our favor” and noted that the Pumpkins pulled off five world tours and produced some 200 recorded songs. ‘So how dysfunctional were we, really?'”

D’arcy discussed the original lineup reunion falling apart in an Alternative Nation interview last month.

“It would have been awesome. Almost nobody ever has that, if you’ve seen The Princess Bride where they talk about one couple in ten lifetimes doesn’t get the shot at true love. Almost nobody ever finds people, that when we would jam, and we would click, it was just magic. The feeling was just amazing, that’s a better drug than anything.

Music has always been a drug for me. I’ve done a lot in my life, and beyond excelled at everything I’ve ever done, and I’m like, I’m done with it when it comes to a lot of things. But music is the only thing that I’ve ever stuck with. Billy just killed it for me for such a long time, I couldn’t listen to the radio, watch TV, go to movies. I was so burned out and traumatized, and I hated myself for giving into him. I know now that I really did the best that I could, and better than anybody else could do.”

She also said, “He’s not going to forgive me. He wanted me to do what he wanted me to do, and he’s furious at me for telling the truth. He calls it ‘your’ truth: ‘You should have told people within the context of the band.’ What the fuck does that mean? I know what it means, toe the party line. ‘We have to be on the same page.’ Just fucking come out and say it, you don’t want me to tell people that I’m not going to be the bass player.”

  • DanSwon

    “I think what she did demonstrates why she couldn’t be involved,” – no Billy, it demonstrates that she is unwilling to accept your manipulative bullying bullshit. All she did was tell the truth about what happened. When someone has a problem with someone else just for speaking honestly about something that happened to them, alarm bells start ringing. Corgan is a nightmare individual.

    • Chris

      Why so bitter? You dont know Billy and the media is bullshit. I wish people like you would say these things to people’s faces if you had the chance.

      • DanSwon

        What makes you think I’m bitter? Just telling the facts as they are, from the huge amount of evidence available.

        • Dez Pornojesus

          Shut up, you’re under every single article about this guy, it started looking pathetic a while ago

          • Olga Stewart

            Dan has the right to post on here, just as you do.

            So how about you get off of Dan’s back?

          • Dez Pornojesus

            So what about you shut up too? 😉

          • Olga Stewart

            You first.

          • Dez Pornojesus

            Intelligent reply. ❤

          • DanSwon

            Nope, gonna keep doing it, maybe more in fact. So go fuck yourself you Corgan-worshipping sycophantic fanboy cunt.

          • Dez Pornojesus

            Ahahah blah blah blah, you must have a terrible life kid to have all that shit to let out, pretty sorry for you kiddo. Pathetic indeed. But you can go on make yourself look like an idiot again and again, together with those other couple minus habens, it’ s your time and life you’re wasting.

          • Fey Wutt

            i agree.

            He should go be Willy’s playmate on someone else’s grave and leave everyone else alone.

      • Fey Wutt

        DanSwon?
        Dead on.

  • DanSwon

    “we’d be playing a lot bigger venues and we would be a lot more successful” – You’re playing 20,000-capacity venues, you’ve sold 21 million albums sold in the United States alone, you were in the right time at the right place with the right sound when the music industry was in great shape and artists got paid properly. Is nothing ever good enough for this guy? It must be horrible being Billy Corgan. He can never be happy.

    • Chris

      He is talking about now and the last 18 years. The fan base unfortunately is not the same as it was… really that is how it is with all of those old bands.. stop hating 😛

      • DanSwon

        Hi is literally playing 20,000-capacity venues this year. The fanbase is there, they’ve just given up on hoping he’ll release a good album, as he hasn’t done for the last 18 years.

        • Mike

          To be fair pretty much no one has.

      • Olga Stewart

        Expressing your opinion is hating?

        Wowie!

        Who knew?

        And yes, I’m being snarky.

  • AndNow…

    They should have just kicked her out in the very beginning and became a 3 piece band or something. I mean that’s how her and Billy met I believe, by arguing over some band in Chicago. She must have been a pain from day one. D’Arcy is not a good person and obviously cannot even be trusted, hint her leaking private and personal text messages to the public, which did her no favor by the way. Billy laid everything out for her. So it’s good that she won’t be on the tour, she can stay on her horse farm building fences all day while the other 3 members can have fun rocking out all over America!

    • Corndog

      How do you know she’s not a good person? Have you met? Do you know her personally?

      Remember, there are 3 sides to every story, and all she has done is give her’s. Nothing she has said sounds unreasonable, and given how Billy comes across in various interviews he has done over the years what D’arcy says sounds quite plausible. If he fucked her over then she doesn’t owe him anything, so why not release the things he said to her? If you ask me, if what she said is true then Billy absolutely deserved it.

      Everything I have ever read or saw about Billy suggested to me at least that he was a self absorbed, manipulative, narcissistic prick. I’ve never really felt anything bad about D’arcy. The worst things folks can seem to find to say about her is that she did a bunch of drugs. So what? I’ve taken plenty of shit myself over the years and if she wants to get high that’s her business. It doesn’t make her in any way a bad person.

      This of course is just my opinion. In the end it doesn’t really affect me as I believe the tour is limited to America and I don’t live there.

      • DanSwon

        Well said! And as for the drugs thing, her awful experiences with Billy Corgan directly pushed her into trying to ‘numb herself’ with drink and drugs. His personality is so toxic and life-ruining.

        • Corndog

          Thank you:)

          • Fey Wutt

            so true.

            was never even offered the option of rehab.

            Just booted before 1/2 of my allotted time-off to get well was over.

            Billy already had Mellissa
            lined up.

          • DanSwon

            It’s sad to hear that about Melissa. She seemed cool in Patty Schemel’s documentary. Perhaps she’s just another opportunistic mercenary.

          • Tilman Müller

            But why had you got three months off from the band? Wasn’t it for some kind of rehab?
            Was Billy eventually pissed off, if you instead hang out in Hollywood with Mickey Rourke, trying to do a career in acting?

      • AndNow…

        She is not a good person because of how she treats her former bandmate and friend. Forget about even the drugs. Just look at the things she has said lately, oh he “can’t sing for chit”. If she hated him that much and his singing, why did she even stay in the band for so long? She mysteriously disappears for 2 decades and then out of nowhere bashes Billy, the guy who pretty much made her career. Can you really blame him for not wanting to jam with someone like that?

        • Corndog

          He can’t sing for shit. He has admitted as much himself. Singing was never his strong suit. Anyone that was ever a fan of the band, myself included, knows he was never a great singer. Awesome guitarist. Great songwriter; at least he used to be, but he was never much of a singer. You only need to watch some live footage to see that.

          Again, nothing she said suggests to me that she is a bad person. Consider for one moment that everything she said about him was true. That being the case, do you still think she’s a bad person?

        • Olga Stewart

          Maybe she stayed so long because she really wanted the band to succeed?

          And so, maybe that’s why she was always so outspoken towards Billy?

          • Fey Wutt

            absolutely.

            I ALWAYS believed in the band … well … until Billy
            decided that he wanted the Pumpkins to be Marilyn Manson.

            I Love them & their music, but i’m not interested in becoming an imitation of anyone else.

            It’s really such a relief to learn that there are a few people at least who
            understand that,

            so thank you for speaking up.

            ❤️

          • Olga Stewart

            You’re welcome. :).

          • Corndog

            Would you ever consider playing again with someone else other than the Pumpkins?

          • Fey Wutt

            absolutely.

            I wanted to for many years but couldn’t get a single peer to call me back because of all billy’s public slandering of me.

          • Corndog

            That’s a real shame. I’ve never met the guy but he really does seem like an insufferable little prick.

            I hope that you’re otherwise happy and well:)

          • Fey Wutt

            I’m great! Thank you!

            (cept for this stupid flu😡)

            i hope you & yours are well too!

          • Corndog

            Thanks very much:)

          • Torgeir Hareide Røyset

            It annoys the hell out of me that this tour became what it did. Another “fresh start” like we’ve heard so many times before, but alas, this time disguised as a full band reunion. I would have flown across the globe to see the four of you, but now I don’t give a shit.
            I hope you rejoice in the legacy of the music you people created at your zenith; it was magical.
            I’m glad to say it was the soundtrack to my youth.

        • Tilman Müller

          Our “mysteriously diss-appearing” troll again, who even can’t write “shit” correct.
          Billy was bashing his other bandmates for decades. That Corgan hasn’t a good voice he even himself agrees. If his phrasing is wrong it sounds awful.
          And D’arcy is right at criticizing Corgan for humiliating other bandmates for fun on stage when playing a wrong note, while he often had problems with his voice.

      • Eddie Yarler

        You know what’s funny about this? Is Billy used to be absolutely fucking brutal when discussing James Iha. He would say the meanest most hurtful shit just to spite him. Now he doesn’t know what to do when someone does the same thing to him.

        At least with people like D’arcy and Scott Weiland, you can highlight their drug addictions regarding their difficult personalities. Billy comes off like Axl Rose, someone just as unbearable sober as someone who isn’t

        • Evan Jones II

          Oh the horror,

    • Olga Stewart

      And she’s not allowed to tell her side of the story?

    • Tilman Müller

      A „fun“ tour…???
      You obviously haven’t red Billy’s personal text messages to D’arcy properly enough:
      “This is a big tour with maximum pressure. And there is no room for error.”
      “We have to prove to world we can compete at highest level or tour we’ll never get out of America”

  • Stone Gossardish

    She had something to add in the comments recently. Actually, a lot to add.

  • John Scott

    Clickbait headline.

  • Evan Jones II

    Billie said the Bridges are burned forever, a perfect line for a song…see, there is a bright side to everything….
    The rest of the lyrics can be strung together with D’Arcy quotes and some bongos…man, making music is some fun

  • JFSII

    The way I read the texts is that Billy is a classic insecure egomaniac. He doesn’t call people, because having them call him is a way of keeping himself “above” them – if he reaches out, it’s a sign of weakness, so having them come to him is his own form of staying on his throne and having them kiss the ring.

    I used to love SP, but fell out of love when Billy started trying to turn himself into a Marilyn Manson clone (parallel to my own musical journey which led me away from alternative music). I only started to become more interested in the recently when Billy was on the Joe Rogan podcast… he sounded like he had finally grown up and matured to the point where he’d be able to collaborate again, even talking about how he should have taken the advice he was given about splitting royalties evenly across the band. It was the first time I actually enjoyed listening to him talk (ugh) in a long time. But all of these revelations that D’Arcy has brought to light show that this was just a load of hot air – back to my diagnosis above, it was the psychopath saying out loud the things he wants to be true, so just saying them makes it true for him, nevermind that his actions completely betray those words. No wonder he’s a Donald Trump supporter.

    I guess I can hold onto one tiny ray of hope – that Billy learned all about the value of a narrative while he’s been running his wrestling league, and that all of this is a ruse meant to drum up publicity for the upcoming tour. What better kind of a redemption story than the classic “infighting band makes up at the 11th hour, embarks on historic tour”?

  • Fernando Ramires

    I am not sure what side to choose in this messy situation. I just wonder why is James so quiet about it and still going with the band instead of being loyal to Darcy. They seemed to be close enough even after she left the band, at least closer then with Billy and Jimmy, who both have said James was “a piece of shit” (Billy) and that he “couldn’t play the guitar” (Jimmy) in the past.